Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.131]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-8b8a4ca1013226a; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:40:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 799123800010A; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P0KTG-000622-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:38:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P0KT6-00061t-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:38:36 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P0KT6-0006MA-5V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:38:37 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8RKcHow013725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:38:18 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8RKcYor019609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:38:34 +0200 Received: from [129.206.196.209] (vpn209a.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.196.209]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8RKc0mx030152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:38:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4CA100C6.3080505@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:38:30 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4CA0FB40.5060404@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4CA0FB40.5060404@telus.net> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Loops on TX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020405000307010104070306" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40834ca101315b19 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------020405000307010104070306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF, Am 27.09.2010 22:14, schrieb Scott Tilley: > If someone knows the relationships for how a loop behaves over ground > I'd love to see them too! Can't this be done in EZNEC? Scott, this sound really impressive. I have thought your loop area is even higher. So, if i can find and climb some trees, i could try to test a closed loop as well. Sounds like an alternative, maybe. What about RG213 as the loop conductor, i mean the shielding? If the supports are not spaced to much, like some trees, this could work. Starting with a small wire, carrying a bigger one and so on. Oh dear, so many ideas, help! 73, Stefan --------------020405000307010104070306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LF,

Am 27.09.2010 22:14, schrieb Scott Tilley:
If someone knows the relationships for how a loop behaves over ground I'd love to see them too!

Can't this be done in EZNEC?

Scott, this sound really impressive. I have thought your loop area is even higher. So, if i can find and climb some trees, i could try to test a closed loop as well. Sounds like an alternative, maybe.

What about RG213 as the loop conductor, i mean the shielding? If the supports are not spaced to much, like some trees, this could work. Starting with a small wire, carrying a bigger one and so on. Oh dear, so many ideas, help!

73, Stefan
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