Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.27]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB084-869c4c9a60a6296; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:01:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (unknown [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5D57F380002AF; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OyVUC-0004AF-OU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:00:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OyVU2-0004A6-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:00:02 +0100 Received: from relay02.pair.com ([209.68.5.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OyVU1-0007NH-DB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:00:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 89651 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2010 19:59:58 -0000 Received: from 64.206.3.50 (HELO ?192.168.1.56?) (64.206.3.50) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2010 19:59:58 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 64.206.3.50 Message-ID: <4C9A6174.4030708@charter.net> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:05:08 -0400 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01cb5a7a$44cfcc50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C1A271605FB0B62@smtp208.alice.it> (added by postmaster@alice.it) <1285185012.2042.23.camel@gerhard-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1285185012.2042.23.camel@gerhard-desktop> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: PA0RDT miniwhip in TX? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d411b4c9a60a46674 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Another approach is to include a small 12V "telephone" type relay at the input to the amplifier, and powered from the same source. The relay would short the input when de-energized. John, W1TAG On 9/22/2010 3:50 PM, Gerhard Hickl wrote: > Hello Marco ! > > I'm currently also playing around with a MiniWhip and had exactly the > same concerns. > > It's not the original design because the 2N5109 wasn't available and so > I used a 2SC24?? (don't remember but a RF-NPN up to 1.5Ghz). I had to > reduce the collector current by increasing the emitter-resistor up to > 680R but noticed no loss in performance. > > I would suggest to decouple the gate of the J310 with a capacitor(100n) > from the "receiving" portion of the PCB and use anti-parallel diodes to > limit the voltage. Maybe this will not remove all the voltage from the > gate but at least the "dangerous" level. > > I will try this in the next version of the antenna. > > 73 es gl > > OE3GHB > Gerhard > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 22.09.2010, 21:08 +0200 schrieb Marco IK1ODO: >> No, I don't want to transmit with the miniwhip :-) !!! >> The question is, how does the miniwhip behave in an electric field of >> some kV/m, that is, close to the transmitting antenna in 137 or 500 >> kHz? Any experience on that? >> A friend (IK1HSS) wants to know, before frying an infinite series of >> J310. In theory the junction should handle up to 25 V reverse, but >> this is not too much, after all. >> >> 73 - Marco IK1ODO >> >> > > > >