Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj09.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME052-8bb14c8687283db; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:40:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 46CD238000085; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ot34g-0001qA-4F for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:39:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ot34f-0001q1-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:39:17 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot34a-0000Px-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:39:18 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o87Id9pd032258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:39:09 +0200 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o87Id8Ng019851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:39:08 +0200 Received: from [147.142.8.104] (vpn508-104.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.104]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o87IcnVH002197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:38:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4C8686CF.9060100@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:39:11 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 137.5kHz WSPR Tuesday evening - reports appreciated Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070501000002040901010201" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89b24c86872504fe X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------070501000002040901010201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roger, Maybe you can send us a circuit with its values. I have built class E PA for 2200/160/80/40/30/17/10m and have some experience. If you are using a IRF510 and stay in the QRP range (< 10 W) at 137 in a class E stage you wouldn't even need a heat sink at all if well dimensioned! See the infos at http://www.classeradio.com/ This is most useful if you are starting with that design. On 137 kHz problems are much smaller than on HF :-) Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 07.09.2010 20:17, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > Just hit a bit of a snag and blew up my (last) IRF510 PA because of > totally inadequate heatsink. So, I'm on 137.5kHz WSPR but only with > about 1W from the simpler PA at present, so ERP low uWs. I need to > get some heatsink and more FETs! > > Any reports (now less likely) still appreciated. > > [Mal - it started out as a Class E design attempt but hadn't been > optimised, so I guess this counts as class D. ] > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > On 7 September 2010 17:34, Roger Lapthorn > wrote: > > My 137.5kHz WSPR TX transverter is now working fine, so I'll be > _*on-air with WSPR tonight (Sept 7th) from 5.30pm - 11pm UK time*_. > > After my success on QRSS3 with G3XIZ I'm hopeful he'll now decode > my WSPR signal tonight, assuming Chris can take a listen. If > anyone else within, say, 100km of Burwell, Cambs JO02dg cares to > take a look for the WSPR beacon (running around 35% TX time) I'd > be /most/ grateful. > > Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but I /was/ using > the small 16mm 3C90 cores (cream colour) as the PA bifilar output > transformer and I had all sorts of issues with the darn thing > overheating and even one cracking. I replaced this with a choke > wound on a T106-2 core and made the output network work in class > D/E and now everything is working very predictably. The larger > diameter 3C90 cores seem fine in the step-down transformer > matching the "in the air" loop. > > The WSPR beacon is now going ON..... > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --------------070501000002040901010201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roger,

Maybe you can send us a circuit with its values. I have built class E PA for 2200/160/80/40/30/17/10m and have some experience. If you are using a IRF510 and stay in the QRP range (< 10 W) at 137 in a class E stage you wouldn't even need a heat sink at all if well dimensioned!

See the infos at http://www.classeradio.com/  This is most useful if you are starting with that design. On 137 kHz problems are much smaller than on HF :-)

Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 07.09.2010 20:17, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
Just hit a bit of a snag and blew up my (last) IRF510 PA because of totally inadequate heatsink. So, I'm on 137.5kHz WSPR but only with about 1W from the simpler PA at present, so ERP low uWs.  I need to get some heatsink and more FETs!

Any reports (now less likely) still appreciated.

[Mal - it started out as a Class E design attempt but hadn't been optimised, so I guess this counts as class D. ]

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 7 September 2010 17:34, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:
My 137.5kHz WSPR TX transverter is now working fine, so I'll be on-air with WSPR tonight (Sept 7th) from 5.30pm - 11pm UK time.

After my success on QRSS3 with G3XIZ I'm hopeful he'll now decode my WSPR signal tonight, assuming Chris can take a listen. If anyone else within, say, 100km of Burwell, Cambs JO02dg cares to take a look for the WSPR beacon (running around 35% TX time) I'd be most grateful.

Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but I was using the small 16mm 3C90 cores (cream colour) as the PA bifilar output transformer and I had all sorts of issues with the darn thing overheating and even one cracking. I replaced this with a choke wound on a T106-2 core and made the output network work in class D/E and now everything is working very predictably. The larger diameter 3C90 cores seem fine in the step-down transformer matching the "in the air" loop.

The WSPR beacon is now going ON.....

73s
Roger G3XBM


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