Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.19]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-5eaa4c7d27aa2d9; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:02:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3A2CF38000143; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqTHA-0004fI-ID for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:01:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqTHA-0004f9-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:01:32 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com ([209.85.214.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqTDz-0001tq-3c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:01:27 +0100 Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so5440958bwz.16 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=afSDnrgZ9tQOSvZHd5Q83W3v5KhuXZFgiIEvya46Vhk=; b=JmmjddEtzM08GguYaStZGHrwqTMrKG6sUg+QONw7mAXoDLfoopDSjTbF3N5LKwptDM Tn7ncZ1V+FYFbS/7tk3SXxLZTw70vjOzQradWGrhudLS1kBLf460lmLWhW4WDOOirijD hmYySgcgb2fesAGgpRlYcqnVAUYlXhUfJjTvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OnSv/g3/w0TKdee7uMfGufN0Pyx7SQbLor9uJJWpgvDSaJ8hZZVszvUy5vEa033eSR 89EtuPDO7+qGLFPSLjfg+UybiaLSdRIlqIKoN/5BYQhggXWjztl+J92ZYcGBPuY8BKR5 D0Jh2hNlifFzjjdjJx7JbyKUS1z2PuGXI1120= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.2.140 with SMTP id 12mr4540222bkj.100.1283270126803; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.136.67 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <802CAA7D45774399A1ACC27A83A552EF@IBM7FFA209F07C> References: <802CAA7D45774399A1ACC27A83A552EF@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:55:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151758b4200f1d61048f209cf7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m286.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60134c7d27a276c3 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00151758b4200f1d61048f209cf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are orthogonal to the loop and I would not expect you to see me .....but life is full of surprises! 73s Roger g3XBM On 31 August 2010 16:42, Chris wrote: > Hi Roger, > I'm not surprised it works better with an aerial! > Will look for you on 137.675, what time are you starting? > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:18 PM > *Subject:* LF: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz > + 136kHz please > > Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system: instead of running > the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only about 1.5m in the > air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wire up in the air some > 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to the top of my pole, then down > 6m vertically and into the house. This means the area enclosed by the loop > part in the air has increased some 3 to 4 times but that part within the > ground between the electrodes is unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger > with M0BMU at 69kms than it was on the original earth electrode antenna. > > *This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 beaconing with this new > set-up and would appreciate reports.* > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00151758b4200f1d61048f209cf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are orthogonal to the loo= p and I would not expect you to see me=A0 .....but life is full of surpris= es!

73s
Roger g3XBM

On 31 Augu= st 2010 16:42, Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Roger,
I'm not surprised it works better= with an=20 aerial!
Will look for you on 137.675, what ti= me are you=20 starting?
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010= 4:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Earth electrode &qu= ot;antenna"=20 changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system:= instead=20 of running the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only abo= ut=20 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wir= e up in=20 the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to the top of my= pole,=20 then down 6m vertically and into the house. This means the area enclosed= by=20 the loop part in the air has increased some 3 to 4 times but that part= within=20 the ground between the electrodes is unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm= ~6dB=20 stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than it was on the original earth electrode= =20 antenna.

This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 be= aconing=20 with this new set-up and would appreciate reports.

73s
Rog= er=20 G3XBM

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