Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.13]) by air-di02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI022-eabb4c6e4ef4ca; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:46:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 390B8380000C4; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OmO9h-0000SV-4G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:44:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OmO9g-0000SM-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:44:56 +0100 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OmO9f-0003rw-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:44:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 14099 invoked by uid 507); 20 Aug 2010 11:44:36 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2010 11:44:36 +0200 From: John Rabson Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:49:32 +0200 Message-Id: <98D767A2-7458-4CDC-AABC-BE5C5E4C7696@numeo.fr> Cc: Robin Gape , Chris Trayner , Alan Melia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LF: 137kHz tests - summary of results X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600d4c6e4ef25b6b X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none LF, Robin, Chris, Alan, Last Tuesday morning (17 August between about 08 30 and 1030 UTC) Robin,= Chris and I carried out some tests on 137.000 kHz from Mare le Bas (JN17= vg). I apologise for not having posted earlier. Many thanks to those who= responded to my previous posting. Transmitter: 30 W output (subsequently falling to 20 W) to an 8 m vertical= with two 20 m horizontal wires as a top hat. Many thanks to Alan for adv= ice on this. Feed current initially 330 milliamps. Manual ID every 15 mi= nutes interspersed with long dashes. Receiver: a 1.6 m mag mount whip in the centre of the roof of a Renault ka= ngaroo, feeding a Lowe HF 250 receiver with a DVM connected to the AGC lin= e. Mode: CW. Bandwidth 2.2 kHz. Environment: the area is extensively wooded, and the underlying rock appea= rs to be on the boundary between limestone and granite. To the north-eas= t there is a fairly clear view out to several kilometres, with a small bel= t of trees cutting across it a few hundred metres from my location. To the= south-east there is a belt of trees nearby. Results: rather to our surprise, we were only able to make measurements to= a distance of a little under 2 km to the north-east. The limitation appea= red to be man-made interference. We suspect that this may be from the car= electronic system (Cam Bus?) which seems to be doing something even when= the ignition and all accessories are turned off. On the return from the= south-east signals were noticeably weaker. Lessons we have learned: - the cause of the falloff in transmitter output power needs to be investi= gated - the calibration of the antenna current meter needs to be checked - the bandwidth of the HF 250 is really too great for good measurements.= Something more appropriate is needed - making measurements with a small loop a little way away from the vehicle= should enable us to deal with weaker signals - moving to 137.700 would be a good move as it should place us within the= capture range of one or more grabbers Robin and Chris have had to return to the UK but I hope to continue with= the work in the meantime. We would welcome comments and advice from those who are more experienced= in this corner of the field. 73 John F5VLF