Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.145]) by air-di02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI023-eabc4c7d2485351; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 39164380000C8; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqT4O-0004XJ-Ux for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:48:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqT4O-0004XA-Fl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:48:20 +0100 Received: from smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqT1e-0001nx-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:48:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 74456 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2010 15:42:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=MbaCMfrKbctkOHrpYolewRsl7TU4BUTVxhL6PgXGqfBshFNB0z5/Wo1xgB42Y9asRYdsURDDCoZBfRcixBQk05emtKMB6kDWD9wP+vb6aeWJFbsLpeSCbCU+884r5j2nQXAIX1gus/XPO+uFy9VbezaNqc2d6wODrhRavuHYzQE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1283269375; bh=RZgesqAl3IQQbC7QeLKu0X1KsGMCDaEn1FUzr4mj8bQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wESWQvVGU+MjeM1JrgHF20zwtSMHK+XxrxS2Z4JsTLS/2Wm4oKon6mgtYOGl8Lc0JFWt6XnIKKUIkZ3zO5ZigLOJdIXIXe0XIrqF7eLAzxCvcJR4brZwdmlZSastVBs7sbaq1Mif0Q3EX7cKbEydHazL2zlDStE4LyhHjIQa9FM= Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@81.131.156.1 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2010 15:42:55 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- X-YMail-OSG: itQaSJUVM1lSqLqIhYDrOi.FNFFz4vpWjSNyWr1mh.pV_X4 QzhNlNvVUA.JHwmpfuuexA5kIs1jbzmDOQT9cO01NnhNFUVHBEnuudU39dd2 87gNbM_hmBrPAxzpjNFN8g0Y6pZ0AMnSmxUqB2F14s6bi8De2L3gezF5o8y6 AKwPNPou2JvTL2TOdm8up_yMnddfATVwpY334q2G45s3kreNMAEoW6gP8Kft bG1Y3q97NXKp6MtS8W0PeNZubbwplsVpMgl1I X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <802CAA7D45774399A1ACC27A83A552EF@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:42:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB492B.901B22F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40914c7d248318a3 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB492B.901B22F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger, I'm not surprised it works better with an aerial! Will look for you on 137.675, what time are you starting? Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: LF: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 50= 0kHz + 136kHz please Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system: instead of run= ning the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only about= 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wire= up in the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to the= top of my pole, then down 6m vertically and into the house. This mean= s the area enclosed by the loop part in the air has increased some 3= to 4 times but that part within the ground between the electrodes is= unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than= it was on the original earth electrode antenna. This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 beaconing with this= new set-up and would appreciate reports. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CB492B.901B22F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger,
I'm not surprised it works better wit= h an=20 aerial!
Will look for you on 137.675, what ti= me are you=20 starting?
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 201= 0 4:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Earth electrode= "antenna"=20 changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system:= instead=20 of running the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only= about=20 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wir= e up in=20 the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to the top= of my pole,=20 then down 6m vertically and into the house. This means the area encl= osed by=20 the loop part in the air has increased some 3 to 4 times but that pa= rt within=20 the ground between the electrodes is unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm= ~6dB=20 stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than it was on the original earth elect= rode=20 antenna.

This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 be= aconing=20 with this new set-up and would appreciate reports.

73sRoger=20 G3XBM

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