Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.141]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF013-5ee44c7926d9183; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:10:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CC35D38000098; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OpN1X-0003RP-UY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:08:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OpN1W-0003RG-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:08:50 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OpN1V-0007Wt-2G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:08:50 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4EA134132 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:08:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.61T) with ESMTP id XID085oHbPip6298X02; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:08:41 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID085oHbPip6298X02 Received: from [192.168.1.3] [151.47.218.12] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.65C) with ESMTPA id 930oHbPiM5968M38; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:08:38 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.218.12 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.3] Message-ID: <4C792674.5050302@usa.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:08:36 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003a01cb460d$d1fcb5b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C7817BD.7080402@usa.net> ,<4C781FF7.3050203@usa.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID930oHbPin5968X38 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: Re: QRP Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408d4c7926d73ef1 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On 8/28/2010 11:22 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote:

Alberto,

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my try (although my latin ha= s a 32 years dust layer):

"they are not yet ripe,=C2= =A0I do not want to eat them bitter"

(said the fox to the raven, referring to the grapes the raven does not want to give him)

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btw: noli or nolo ?
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73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T

Hi Rik,

=C2=A0 mine is not any younger... = :-( :-( time is passing so fast.....

Of course your translation is correct, meaning that it is too easy to dismiss or to despise something, attributing no value to it,
only because it is out of our reach, as we are unable to fully understand it... :-) :-)

And, yes, it is "nolo". first singular person, not "noli".=C2=A0 Attribute it to a "lapsus calami", caused by a "currenti calamo"...=C2=A0=C2=A0 :-)

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On 8/28/2010 1:29 PM, Clemens Paul wrote:

the grapes are still not mature, I don't like to take=
 sour ones.

sour grapes
Etymology:
from the fable ascribed to Aesop of the fox who after finding himself=20
unable to reach some grapes he had desired disparaged them as sour
: disparagement of something that has proven unattainable {his=20
criticisms are just sour grapes}
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sour%2=
0grapes

Perfect Clemens,

=C2=A0 let me just add that the Greek Aesop was the original writer of the story, which was then translated into Latin by Phaedrus (Fedro)
73=C2=A0 Alberto=C2=A0 I2PHD