Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.215]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-a8d34c6562896d; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:19:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D9B18380001E4; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ojw1c-0002zR-KB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ojw1c-0002zI-2K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:28 +0100 Received: from smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.249]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ojw1b-0000nG-CH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 56277 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2010 15:18:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KQexuQU94ANlUffHxGJqjgPibkrNBsDoJtQj6xxNdf3yQIbyCaGwupLbtevfJ+FavqfIpduYaBlGOk2zAvreHjKY+XaPThB5U6wIt0UeaJpluLqf3KVSDJQ1wKV9dnwMjeodVNcxMdoARFlQSuSdNYgDcCOvyTlfMdNKmB6tAPU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1281712701; bh=ga5FEUtQjnbgqR9HbkhQyzY2ozbZF8axGbIgqPxu+5A=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=MqqeFVgB/fXLN56Sn5SNI97z7XpoYuwE/WWmUFxk676PhAzRGcY74qZrLDE38oUl5+Qy5gz4FYLHfDCKTCbs6YsJnrMJHfvBdNF04FXobIVBcBizQs17duZ76i/pRwuSWsW3eGXyjD1rZcBeeFmSVfzOx3ABsBa7ImzXswJB72c= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.177.109.219 with login) by smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2010 15:18:21 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: n9hCndAVM1mV0.0AGh9XQofajhp3jsALwlOiSTSjuXMfSYy M7jc2Pv4tYyIeOKrPvbQdfzvmwLiKxaA6xW1CCJth.6kif4Flqz5wQa0xUHb dxoh04yUqXPRF5Odi1mEnw9mPACPttIS_bbHB5ZoTMPlBqkh28zdoeRG7icV fSrVW5ZRvBpnYaFV0NpU0Beo_8Jx1n4eKHAtNOrD2NQXyBDyM3Yn66OYHx6P HQMO7f_EsbKckLmlPUcb9fPqZ.GsAMHy00t8gd_t2pSry3DSqMzPgasIaaFn XCEy08A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2DE11A6F8086421CA752083A717BB54D@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <9A9EB30E-F417-4EF6-B3CB-B2893B8F7F96@numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <9A9EB30E-F417-4EF6-B3CB-B2893B8F7F96@numeo.fr> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:18:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Tests on 136 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m226.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d74c65628677d0 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear John et al, LF Group, 135.8kHz isn't great - the bottom edge of the band has a lot of sideband noise from the Lakihegy HGA22 transmitter, plus the FSK signal from SXV close to this frequency is strong after dark in the UK. I would suggest moving up the band to 136.3kHz or above. You can get a good view of the whole band in Europe from DF6NM's grabber at: http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm Good luck with the tests, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rabson" To: Cc: "Robin Gape" ; "Chris Trayner" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: LF: Tests on 136 kHz If all goes well we shall in the next few days start tests with about 30W to a modest antenna in central Burgundy. We intend to use 135.8 unless someone suggests a better part of the band. John F5VLF Chris G4OKW Robin G8DQX