Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.80]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE054-5eb54c7d2fb51aa; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:37:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B9066380000AF; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqToG-0004vP-DE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:35:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqToF-0004vG-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:35:43 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqTm4-00028t-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:35:38 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3359C7000087 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:31:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 265357000090 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:31:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.90.106]) by mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id CCEC87000087 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:30:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100831163059839.CCEC87000087@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <2B6E2F5FB9034B6592722DA89E0FBE7C@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <802CAA7D45774399A1ACC27A83A552EF@IBM7FFA209F07C> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:30:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100831-0, 31/08/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E3_01CB4932.46781B60" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40504c7d2fb35fba X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01CB4932.46781B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try invisible ros-mf-1 ! From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed= on 500kHz + 136kHz please It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are orthogonal to the= loop and I would not expect you to see me .....but life is full of= surprises! 73s Roger g3XBM On 31 August 2010 16:42, Chris wrote: Hi Roger, I'm not surprised it works better with an aerial! Will look for you on 137.675, what time are you starting? Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: LF: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on= 500kHz + 136kHz please Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system: instead of= running the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only abo= ut 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wi= re up in the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to th= e top of my pole, then down 6m vertically and into the house. This mea= ns the area enclosed by the loop part in the air has increased some 3= to 4 times but that part within the ground between the electrodes is= unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than= it was on the original earth electrode antenna. This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 beaconing with this= new set-up and would appreciate reports. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01CB4932.46781B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try invisible ros-mf-1 !

Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: re= ports=20 needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are or= thogonal=20 to the loop and I would not expect you to see me  .....but life= is full of=20 surprises!

73s
Roger g3XBM

On 31 August 2010 16:42, Chris <c.ashby435@btinte= rnet.com>=20 wrote:
Hi Roger,
I'm not surprised it works better= with an=20 aerial!
Will look for you on 137.675, what= time are you=20 starting?
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.=
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 31,= 2010 4:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Earth electrod= e "antenna"=20 changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna syste= m: instead=20 of running the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence on= ly about=20 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the= wire up in=20 the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to the top= of my=20 pole, then down 6m vertically and into the house. This means the= area=20 enclosed by the loop part in the air has increased some 3 to 4 tim= es but=20 that part within the ground between the electrodes is unchanged.= On 500kHz=20 WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than it was on the orig= inal earth=20 electrode antenna.

This evening I'm going to try 137.675= kHz QRSS3=20 beaconing with this new set-up and would appreciate=20 reports.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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