Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.214]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB051-85f14c46c2cd3c3; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:50:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 30A3C38000086; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ObVus-0005V9-3H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:48:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ObVur-0005V0-Ky for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:48:41 +0100 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ObVuq-000655-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:48:41 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570167B8048 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:48:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.13]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC6731E703 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:48:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.13]) with mapi; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:48:30 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:48:31 +0200 Thread-Topic: Best way to connect feedline - advice appreciated Thread-Index: AcsojCnHkyZ4DMdcQt2N0481RQdlowALHTzY Message-ID: References: <478581.40879.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <478581.40879.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Best way to connect feedline - advice appreciated Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64c46c2cc01cc X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, you will get the best current distribution (and thus largest radiation res= istance) if you keep the capacitance of the upgoing wire as small as possi= ble (and the capacitance of the topload a large as possible). This will be achieved by a single upgoing wire at a as large as possible= distance from the mast and other objects. Putting a part of the loading coil at the top of the upgoing wire might al= so help. You could make a loading coil by winding some wire around the PV= C mast at the top. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens Andy - KU4XR [ku4xr@yahoo.com] Verzonden: woensdag 21 juli 2010 4:52 Aan: 600 meter group; lowfer@mailman.qth.net; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Best way to connect feedline - advice appreciated Hello all: I will soon be finishing my re-construction of my lowFER antenna to be used at 185 KHz. I will be using a different top hat design from my previous antenna. I am not sure what would be the best way to connect the feedline to the top hat, and down to the transmitter. Photos of the new top hat are at: http://ku4xr.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=3D9558802 There are 24 horizontal wires, and 8 diagonal wires ( tensioners ) so 32 wires total in the top hat. The cross arms are 10 feet ( 3.3 m ) in length, and are grey electrical PVC ( UV resistant ).The vertical pipe for the tensioning wires is 3 feet ( 1 m ). The mast will be grey PVC, and a wooden " A " frame mounted against the side of my aluminum sided mobile home, (I know !! Not Good, but the best I can do)... The loading coil ( Variometer ) is just inside the window at the operating position...... Possibilities ::: #1 : A single wire, straight down the mast. #2 : A single wire offset by about 1 foot, or more ?? to help lessen the coupling effect. #3 : Maybe a 2 wire downlead, spaced a given distance apart, and offset from the mast also at a given distance, then tied together for a single wire coming into the window at the loading coil. Any ideas will be appreciated. This antenna will no longer be a " one man job " it is going to be heavy, and will have to be guyed. So, once my help is gone, I won't be able to raise, and lower this antenna by myself like my previous one, so I need to do everything the best possible while it is on the ground, and hope for the best when it goes up in the air. The top hat will be at 36 feet ( 12 m ) AGL, and the APEX will be at 39 feet ( 13 m ) AGL. Again, thank you for any suggestions, I'll consider all of them, and then do the best I can do with the recomendations. Thank you for your time, and 73 to all : Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. USA LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 185.29875 KHz ( QRSS-60 ) *** Temporarily OFF, while constructing a new antenna *** Coordinates: N: 35=BA 43' 54" - W: 84=BA 3' 16" http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr