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Good luck with the tests Stefan. I am not beginning to believe anything is
possible!

73s
Roger G3XBM


2010/7/20 Stefan Sch=E4fer <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>

>  Dear VLF,
>
> Today i was in the forest for more than 10 hours doing the following
> tests/works :-) :
>
> Today i did my test on *8,97 and 7,97 and 6,97 kHz*. It was possible to
> transmit on the lower frequencies like one can still see on my grabber2.=
 The
> antenna current was just about 220 mA and 130mA in the 8,97 test. There=
 were
> some problems with a step up transformer in combination with the big PA,
> thus the low current (i used a 12V/150V DC/DC converter and batteries,=
 not
> my generator for high power). So the signal was even 3 dB lower than in=
 the
> "73" test on 8,97 before some weeks. On 8,97 the power was 8 dB lower,=
 thus
> there was no reception on 8,97 today but as we know, it works best on 8,=
97
> in 5km distance. The lower the frequency the more i am again in the near
> field. This improves the propagation i suppose.
>
> If my 5 km distance could be "utility assisted" like in Rogers tests is=
 not
> sure. A wider distance reception has to be done!
>
> After that i increased the *earth antenna length to 500m, 420m ground
> electrode spacing*!! :-) The average height above ground is still about
> 4m. Orientation of the antenna is N<=3D>S.
> This was a hard work since i had to climb many trees since i had to cros=
s 2
> ways in a hight of about 6m. Since it is a conferous forest, i have 100s=
 of
> scratches now but all in all it was a inspiring work :-).
> I removed the far ends ground rods and will place them on the new end th=
at
> will be found on thursday! Adding the last 200m part will be rather easy
> since there are no ways to cross any more and the tree-density is rather=
 low
> ;-) Than, i will have a 700m long wire and the ground electrode distance
> will be about 600m!! With that antenna i will try to be received in 50km
> distance on 8,97 kHz when Michael Oexner is coming back from holidays in=
 abt
> 2 weeks.
> Before this test i will try to reduce the overall losses below 500 Ohm=
 and
> do some RX tests watching the new VLF transmitter levels (DHO38 and so=
 on).
>
> Any bets about the signal increase when increasing the spacing from 280m=
 to
> 600m?
>
> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>
>


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Good luck with the tests Stefan. I am not beginning to believe anything is=
 possible!<br><br>73s<br>Roger G3XBM<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2010/7/20 Stefan Sch=E4fer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:schaef=
er@iup.uni-heidelberg.de">schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de</a>&gt;</span><br=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
Dear VLF,<br>
<br>
Today i was in the forest for more than 10 hours doing the following
tests/works :-) :<br>
<br>
Today i did my test on <b>8,97 and 7,97 and 6,97 kHz</b>. It was
possible to transmit on the lower frequencies like one can still see on
my grabber2. The antenna current was just about 220 mA and 130mA in the
8,97 test. There were some problems with a step up transformer in
combination with the big PA, thus the low current (i used a 12V/150V
DC/DC converter and batteries, not my generator for high power). So the
signal was even 3 dB lower than in the &quot;73&quot; test on 8,97 before=
 some
weeks. On 8,97 the power was 8 dB lower, thus there was no reception on
8,97 today but as we know, it works best on 8,97 in 5km distance. The
lower the frequency the more i am again in the near field. This
improves the propagation i suppose.<br>
<br>
If my 5 km distance could be &quot;utility assisted&quot; like in Rogers=
 tests is
not sure. A wider distance reception has to be done!<br>
<br>
After that i increased the <b>earth antenna length to 500m, 420m
ground electrode spacing</b>!! :-) The average height above ground is
still about 4m. Orientation of the antenna is N&lt;=3D&gt;S.<br>
This was a hard work since i had to climb many trees since i had to
cross 2 ways in a hight of about 6m. Since it is a conferous forest, i
have 100s of scratches now but all in all it was a inspiring work :-).<br>
I removed the far ends ground rods and will place them on the new end
that will be found on thursday! Adding the last 200m part will be
rather easy since there are no ways to cross any more and the
tree-density is rather low ;-) Than, i will have a 700m long wire and
the ground electrode distance will be about 600m!! With that antenna i
will try to be received in 50km distance on 8,97 kHz when Michael
Oexner is coming back from holidays in abt 2 weeks. <br>
Before this test i will try to reduce the overall losses below 500 Ohm
and do some RX tests watching the new VLF transmitter levels (DHO38 and
so on).<br>
<br>
Any bets about the signal increase when increasing the spacing from
280m to 600m?<br>
<br>
73, Stefan/DK7FC<br>
<br>
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