Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.15]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB082-86224c50002e151; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:02:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F31FC3800008F; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Oe3Rw-0004Vh-2p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:01:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Oe3Rv-0004VY-Ko for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:01:19 +0100 Received: from smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.248]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oe3Ru-00058K-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:01:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 49670 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 10:01:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=yy0NJMfgGikEOUDlHhmCOce6rGzp7NOrDtCsGHB1CEIH3Yzv1ADTzr+FO4cs8OsX8at/eLKA32hEkFYSHgqVoJOmJyFo4l6Mkp5hgNA3gS3bTmQDKyMkXKkQohx5K6eHdqEgV7c1klyz4+S1W/HHGvY72ZxnovqEK8tJbBQID8E= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1280311273; bh=xSeVtUJ6lJLXY7o7kZdmdwi6acNkilDGEW0XTrNXYJE=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KaHROHIqWwDs34Ivd9J5dIopLkemMBEq+imBIYLImc+P4uslwj+t/X0CxPRnk1l65oJAyocaVO1AGk+tIeMgO8xIt/XdLszX6c/0wuhsv0lDswg84Dv2FP/nzkHqpx2cLKZOlO+k6Lapmo9VYySU0gvJlIjE3S9lNYa4xSJgHuY= Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@81.153.42.245 with login) by smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2010 10:01:12 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- X-YMail-OSG: efvr3oEVM1lJJmoarNBr_a08JZUJL.4wivAiqRMpyE6csT5 sSIKHIo75rmckn0DXEghWPAd2A_rrptoscfh4ptZ3M2U3UwArb4qtEY.io1h GLt3aYic5atD.ERpe2X41Fm9jmBgsf8va62D5ThlLaiDHUWaluUjqAxySTg5 jpO5C86TVeS5lmX6UKa5p3Qb8kh5ksHSi67Ikobj629QXbYifdv2.9R0WCAz US5kfdAVpVsMRc0LwM05I.xuMxcumH.3ooRkdkp8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <8ED8F16368A3459A836DBB947089F9AD@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <005601cb2dbf$c836d030$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <007601cb2dc8$df5d8bb0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C4FF18B.1080702@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:01:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: QSO Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m207.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d400f4c50002b0ef8 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Well, I am afraid I find it quite exciting still! I was delighted to find a trace of XGJ on my overnight captures this morning. I was playing with earth systems best part of 50 years ago. I have to say I agree with Mal, use a proper antenna and operate at a sensible frequency!! Your comments are somewhat disheartening for those of us still learning. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike-WE0H" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: LF: Re: QSO > Maybe everyone is getting bored with TA signal reports every night. I > mean, how many times do you have to cross the pond to get excited? > Woohoo!!! > > I find these Earth Antennas interesting reading. Who cares if someone with > a 4kw amp can make his signal cross the pond on any band. Boring.... > > Mike-WE0H > > > > mal wrote: >> How could going backwards be Positive !!!! Check the records for years >> gone by on 137 and look at what is happening today. >> I am but pointing out the facts, has no one learnt anything from >> information published over the past several years. >> I was getting 579 reports from NC1K years ago on 137 but today it seems >> to be a struggle for some to be heard a few hundred metres away >> Prove me wrong ? >> g3kev >> *From: Roger L >> >> Wonderful Mal. Do you never have ANYTHING positive to say? >> . >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM > >> >> On 27 July 2010 20:13, mal wrote: >> >> There is no need for QRS around EU. In the past all EU was >> worked on CW and daytime over 1000 miles plus on 137 kcs >> Maybe QRS for N America/China and further afield. >> QRS around EU is a backward step and certainly not progress, >> and earthed antennas !!! Need I say more? >> g3kev >