Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.205]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-5eac4c4f48a1aa; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:59:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9A9A8380000F0; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OdrDt-00028Z-9H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:58:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OdrDs-00028J-9H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:58:00 +0100 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdrDr-0008Td-72 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:58:00 +0100 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100727205753.RPQX3075.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:57:53 +0100 Received: from [86.31.185.158] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdrDk-0001jN-Gp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:57:53 +0100 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <003d01cb2daa$80acf560$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <01eb01cb2dbf$7fa319f0$0217aac0@desktop> <006801cb2dc7$dc079f60$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: <020501cb2dce$5e179db0$0217aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <006801cb2dc7$dc079f60$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 Thread-Index: AcstyC17LyOidCzcQf2OMKIm15ocBQABJ3gA X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3ENABmdyEd/Fm7fR7+mZIuMDn6+IErAeEhlfWBImZFk= c=1 sm=0 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=JNBU_VZPbQKz2JCHwtAA:9 a=4-z34d6vs5vHr3n2WykA:7 a=pYfT8YW8x0BAV4HfIZm8Tv_mzkQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=zRjN8VTQgIkV4WtB:21 a=a1h_sFRJx60owtQv:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=k7G52Yl4Bo7r53SS2tcA:9 a=KT9h540Co1WwuzMVrLkA:7 a=jTCQGAXNrc6WC_inxtwaf9LpN_oA:4 a=0YTT5LJOrzNm7xeW:21 a=CZT86Bh-UA9rb7kI:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: QRG/TIME Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0206_01CB2DD6.BFDC05B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd4c4f489b5e5b X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01CB2DD6.BFDC05B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal All the initial LF challenges have been done. Where's the thrill in T/A on 137 and 500? This has been done by yourself and other early pioneers and well documented and congrats to those that did. So now people are trying new challenges and techniques. I'm sure if M0BMU, G3XIZ and others decided to fire up their systems they could rattle the windows in New England once more but people move onto new challenges, frequencies, modes etc. As it is, both 137 and 500 are alive and kicking down here in Beds with regular CW net skeds across Biggleswade and still quite a bit of activity on WSPR For me DX is about Difficulty indeX as well as long distance and the challenge to be heard with a low profile earth loop antenna on 9khz is as much a test as T/A on 137 was, with neither devaluing the achievements of the other (in my very humble opinion) I'm sure there will be many opinions on this but then that's amateur radio for you! With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn E james.cowburn@virgin.net The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this message. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Consequently, this email is not intended to be contractually binding. If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 27 July 2010 21:11 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: QRG/TIME jim Certainly a bad day for LF. It speaks for itself, noone now able to radiate signals like used to be the case a few years ago. The average distance these days measured in metres, whereas yesteryears thousands of Kilometres g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: James Cowburn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: LF: RE: QRG/TIME Bad day Mal? With best regards Jim Dr. James Cowburn E james.cowburn@virgin.net The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this message. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Consequently, this email is not intended to be contractually binding. If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer. _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 27 July 2010 17:41 To: rsgb Subject: LF: QRG/TIME Reports on here often omit the QRG and TIME. eg Good signal last night Gasper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------- IS USELESS AS A GUIDE TO OTHERS. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01CB2DD6.BFDC05B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mal

 

All the initial= LF challenges have been done.  Where’s the thrill in T/A on 137 and 500?  This= has been done by yourself and other early pioneers and well documented and congrats to= those that did.  So now people are trying new challenges and techniques= .   I’m sure if M0BMU, G3XIZ and others decided to fire up their systems they= could rattle the windows in New England= once more but people move onto new challenges, frequencies, modes etc.

 

As it is, both= 137 and 500 are alive and kicking down here in Beds with regular CW net skeds across Biggleswade= and still quite a bit of activity on WSPR

 

For me DX is ab= out Difficulty= indeX  as= well as long distance and the challenge to be heard with a low profile earth loop antenna on 9khz is= as much a test as T/A on 137 was, with neither devaluing the achievements of= the other (in my very humble opinion)

 

I’m sure= there will be many opinions on this but then that’s amateur radio for you!=

 

 

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

E james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

The informatio= n transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pri= vileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notifi= ed that you must not read this message.
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking= of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other= than the intended recipient is prohibited.  Consequently, this email is no= t intended to be contractually binding.
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the= message as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.=

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 27 July 2010 21:1= 1
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: RE: QR= G/TIME

 

jim

Certainly a bad day for LF. It speaks= for itself, noone now able to radiate signals like used to be the case a few years ago.

The average distance these days measure= d in metres, whereas yesteryears thousands of Kilometres

g3kev

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent:= Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:11 PM

Subject: LF: RE: QRG/TIME

 

Bad day Mal?&nb= sp; 

 

 

 

 

With best regards=

 

 

Jim

 

 

Dr. James Cowbu= rn

E james.cowburn@virgin.net

 

The information= transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pri= vileged material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notifi= ed that you must not read this message.
Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action= in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the= intended recipient is prohibited.  Consequently, this email is not intende= d to be contractually binding.
If you received this in error, please contact the sender, return the message= as well as its attachments and delete the whole from any computer.<= /font>

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org [mailto:owner-= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 27 July 2010 17:4= 1
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: QRG/TIME

 

Reports on here often omit the QRG and= TIME.

 

eg

 

Good signal last night Gasper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------- IS USELESS AS A GUIDE TO OTHERS.<= /span>

 

G3KEV

 

 

 

 

 

 

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