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(VPS 100723-1, 23/07/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Noise R75 - rs232 from smpsu - Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d295.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60924c4a14a544e1 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Laurence from memory ....I dont use laptops so didnt need do it.....the easiest way of "decoupling" the serial comms loops, is a pair of opto couplers on the RS-232 there are app notes in the data sheets for most. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence KL7UK" To: ; Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:47 PM Subject: LF: Noise R75 - rs232 from smpsu - Anyone done any common mode noise mitigation from the RS232 port of the R75 Rx> - the noise coming up from the SMPSU/processor from the old Dell puter - cable is double screened - choking off using J (75) type has seen little improvement - this is my last hurdle to unimpeded remote rx on 137 - any pointers appreciated - everythings bonded and Ive tried the on/off earth tricks at various locations - Anyone had any success of powering a Dell D series from a non standard non switched PSU? (the noise goes away when the DC from the Black Dell brick is removed but it may also be partially screen/processor noise...) with thanks Laurence Kl7UK _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. 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