Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.9]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD063-8b8a4c122e5ddb; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:38:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-di05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5E76A3800029C; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ON3UK-00016I-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:37:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ON3UK-000169-4T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:37:32 +0100 Received: from mailout07.t-online.de ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ON3UH-000397-Vz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:37:32 +0100 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de (fwd05.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout07.t-online.de with smtp id 1ON3UG-0002YR-S7; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:37:28 +0200 Received: from df2py (VgohDqZlwhEpscg+ikCWLigTEhdHmxwGPNQvowx6Jw4KgdgIOJ3zMHrchNntLJIQWI@[80.187.101.41]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ON3UA-01nuu80; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:37:22 +0200 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4C0C10E1.4090804@freenet.de><4C0C15BB.9010602@gmx.com><4C0C1960.5050708@freenet.de><4C0C1C35.2080401@gmx.com><4C0EB8AC.2070508@freenet.de> <53EF46B489244A09B02F194D6CD79DAB@df2py> <4C101E1F.7010501@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3E76E4DCF3684D3E99582E065CA7486E@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C39@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <5E86B9622E084C7AABBED3AA4DF93ABF@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <008901cb0961$23480030$0217aac0@desktop> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:38:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsIKGjKsK5UVdcJTRaNiexvv3fsSgALocogABnAVncABD9bsAABmvf+ACDjGyAAAgThsAAAVEUg In-Reply-To: <008901cb0961$23480030$0217aac0@desktop> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000DDD42F76C12F0E4CAA702CEF260BB34E64802D00 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-ID: VgohDqZlwhEpscg+ikCWLigTEhdHmxwGPNQvowx6Jw4KgdgIOJ3zMHrchNntLJIQWI X-TOI-MSGID: 7abebf6f-82f8-49cf-8178-24ae1b6de0ed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: AW: RE: move from loop to loaded aerial Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB0973.B6DB3760" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/59665 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40094c122e594f2c X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CB0973.B6DB3760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim ! Thanks for the info. I already have the antenna structure. I either use a toploaded vertical abt 25 m high, or I load a long wire same height but much larger. My question is whether the performance will be the same or not. I guess as there is no such thing as a free lunch in physics, the vertical will be the superior performer. 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