Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj08.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.92]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA053-b5264c0507c3e0; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:14:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 64F6D380000AA; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OJRHe-0003Uq-Ui for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:13:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OJRHe-0003Uh-Ic for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:13:30 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OJRHc-0004GE-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:13:30 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE2F51C017 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.11]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74029F3867 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.11]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:13:14 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:13:14 +0200 Thread-Topic: LF: QRO / QRP Thread-Index: AcsBiugyCQWhMBQaS1+ELl8fGkpUsAAAGZJl Message-ID: References: <4C0505F3.23023.3198CFC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>,<1OJR3q-0nK4tk0@fwd09.t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <1OJR3q-0nK4tk0@fwd09.t-online.de> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: QRO / QRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89b04c0507c123b8 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Ha-Jo, interesting approach that QRP not only includes power (input, output, ERP= ...) but also dimensions. I can live with that, on the condition that the dimensions are given in wa= velengths ;-) So if a rig of 4cm high, 8cm wide and 12 cm long is QRP on 80m then any ri= g smaller than 1m high, 2m wide and 3m long is QRP on 137kHz.=20 Shouldn't be a aproblem for most of us ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de [hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de] Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juni 2010 14:58 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: QRO / QRP Dear all, for the "Minimum Art Session" (MAS) pioneered by DJ7ST I have built a small two stage 80 m TX (3 watts output) which fits into the pocket of my trousers or jacket. If You can do the same with your LF transmitter it would also be really QRP. HW? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Mike Dennison" schrieb: > I run a 650W transmitter on 137kHz to radiate 350mW ERP. Is that QRO > or QRP? Or both simultaneously? > > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >