Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.201]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-a8d44c19e373103; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:57:23 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 74AD238002D7C; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OPAtn-0007o6-Pg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:56:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OPAtn-0007nx-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:56:35 +0100 Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com ([209.85.161.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OPAti-0001G2-3C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:56:35 +0100 Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2597248fxm.16 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:56:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+HQENmYQoPzdrHYI/kNxfYBSoIdLGYyzYEbJal7fhQA=; b=xxT+Bz0TfFzBIEGTYTUUR3hYxsMEKA9tPHHIfqxGgcJmGJPMh9W9+jUdKNhxQOY3eZ cg7GpFXZ4zUzQ3L0IKrXwqEjw4S+PSwMm+25cBmlQavnzuAid40A43X3eoGyj9Nv1fXD 53V0o2/mvaYn4c8UWx7JM0zmkg2V5qVFgnMlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kE2X1DaujYXYQB05J8AFw15b/YO/mwGPDztaPCuLPZKKzrxMsopjSkN+DOQ0ETDX8x nL6UUKbzP9qMpXEMkUjCjETkL+6+AD5XBYOCqWSqwdnYScdlFfgku6DIR/EvBtlCFjil 5Q9vBrvN7PtbOx1jIB8jpyFnVAU0GAryRyEqQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.210 with SMTP id a18mr7491513bkc.175.1276764980947; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.100.69 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 01:56:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C19DD25.4070109@gmx.com> References: <648287CF-49D0-4E2E-BCE5-B20F634C9384@numeo.fr> <569132.43932.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C19DD25.4070109@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:56:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who needs antennas! - success with ground electrodes on 500kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555517a26ace10489360397 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d268.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40c94c19e3714334 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555517a26ace10489360397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Folks, Well I need to do an estimate of ERP with the "earth antenna", so will try to measure this in the coming days. Jusging by reports so far the system is about 6-10dB down on my top loaded vertical antenna. The power from the transverter is 5W still but with the vertical the ERP was only around 1mW (calculated and measured). So, at a first guess, the ERP is probably around 200uW but perhaps with directivity because of the loop action. Rik, I could run it overnight tonight if you like to see who can copy me. Anyone else willing and able to listen overnight tonight please? 73s Roger G3XBM On 17 June 2010 09:30, Mike-WE0H wrote: > 3 watts into my 600 meter 70' vertical gets me easy CW copy at 100 miles in > daylight. If you can get a bit over 100 miles with 5 watts CW in daylight > with that Earth Electrode antenna, then you know it works damn good. > > Mike > WE0H > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00032555517a26ace10489360397 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks,

Well I need to do an estima= te of ERP with the "earth antenna", so will try to measure this= in the coming days. Jusging by reports so far the system is about 6-10dB= down on my top loaded vertical antenna. The power from the transverter is= 5W still but with the vertical the ERP was only around 1mW (calculated an= d measured). So, at a first guess, the ERP is probably around 200uW but pe= rhaps with directivity because of the loop action.

Rik, I could run it overnight tonight if you like to see who can copy= me. Anyone else willing and able to listen overnight tonight please?
<= br>73s
Roger G3XBM




= On 17 June 2010 09:30, Mike-WE0H <we0h@gmx.com> wrote:
3 watts into my= 600 meter 70' vertical gets me easy CW copy at 100 miles in daylight.= If you can get a bit over 100 miles with 5 watts CW in daylight with that= Earth Electrode antenna, then you know it works damn good.

Mike
WE0H




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