Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.144]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-8b954c2473c42d9; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:15:48 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-me08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 901CD38000100; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OS4zP-0000ps-EN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:14:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OS4zO-0000pj-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:14:22 +0100 Received: from relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net ([217.69.40.75] helo=relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OS4zN-0008HL-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:14:22 +0100 Received: from [88.151.27.236] (helo=TonyLaptop) by relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OS4z5-0008UD-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:14:03 +0100 Message-ID: <8E4FC73E19264769BDD773018FF63E7A@TonyLaptop> From: "Tony Baldwin" To: References: <6DEA7E8987244A48846E44813972D608@TonyLaptop> <002301cb13b3$fe031640$4001a8c0@lark> <4C2468E5.14422.A52B82@dave.davesergeant.com> In-Reply-To: <4C2468E5.14422.A52B82@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:14:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 X-Auth-Info: 3810@permanet.ie (login) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Antenna wire Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60904c2473c128fe X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sorry to bewilder you Dave, but when it comes to LF wire aerials I really am a complete newbie. Although I've been licenced for over 40 years now, I have spent all my time up the "other end" of the spectrum. So, no I haven't really got 100m rolls of stranded cable kicking around in my shack. I do have a 6 foot dish, a couple of 30 foot long 2m yagis etc, etc, so any wire needed for a 136 aerial I will have to go out and buy, and before I did that I wanted to make sure that I wasn't wasting my money on the wrong stuff, plus wire shops are few and far between down this neck of the woods. The only wire locally (nearest 15 miles) is CB & TV coax, twin and earth electrical and electric fencing wire, anything else is a 120 mile round trip to Cork city or arm and a leg postage. Thanks for the tip about loudspeaker cable, that might be possible locally. 73, Tony, EI8JK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: LF: Re: Antenna wire >> Sorry to ask a stupid newbie question but what is the best wire for my >> aerial ? I had thought about getting a couple of 100m rolls of cheapo >> RG58 and soldering the centre and screen together, or is there a better >> way ? Tony, EI8JK >> > > I have been watching this thread with some bewilderment... > > If the antenna you are putting up is a form of longwire, dipole > (shortened I guess..), doublet, G5RV etc then it honestly doesn't > matter one bit. Any piece of cheap stranded wire will do, and the only > requirements are mechanical, ie to ensure it stays up in the air. > Normal stranded 19/.76 or whatever will do. Most of us have plenty of > this lying around the shack. There is absolutely no purpose in using > coax, or for that matter heavy electrical cable, as you will struggle > to keep this horizontal and its weight will soon break the guys. > > If on the other hand you are talking about resonant loops, then it is > important to keep the dc resistance as low as possible, especially on > 136 where the radiation resistance is miniscule. When I used a loop on > 136 I used heavy gauge loudspeaker cable, readily available in 100m > rolls, with the pair shorted to make a single conductor. Don't bother > with the 'oxygen free' stuff, that is throwing money down the drain.. I > don't think coax, any sort, will give you as low a dc resistance. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > >