Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.214]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME101-8bc44c0beaf31af; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:37:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id ABB5E38000082; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OLKiC-0001JZ-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:36:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OLKiC-0001JQ-8b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:36:44 +0100 Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([74.208.5.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OLKiA-0004xH-DL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:36:44 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Jun 2010 18:36:35 -0000 Received: from 75-168-143-142.mpls.qwest.net (EHLO [192.168.1.100]) [75.168.143.142] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us001) with SMTP; 06 Jun 2010 14:36:35 -0400 X-Authenticated: #60769621 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18z1XxAbowzRfm3GnGoGdACSSxKja6T/XjMksPNKg kUC2t0QiW86piD Message-ID: <4C0BEAB4.4050509@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:36:36 -0500 From: "Mike.WE0H" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004801cb04d6$e9740b80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001101cb054f$49a29c60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <52F731AEBF244DE99A2D6D5162CE2296@JimPC> <4C0BDEFA.80505@freenet.de> <002301cb05a6$4a0172b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002301cb05a6$4a0172b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 9 kcs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64c0beaf16298 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) What would be a good affordable wire to wind a base loading coil from? It can't be too small diameter or the losses will be huge. That is the only part of the station that seems like a big undertaking. The rest of the components are low cost and easy to build. Mike WE0H Mal wrote: > > Wolf. > > > Receiving what ? I am not totally convinced. Receiving a signal a few metres > away is not what I call a good performance. > A few hundred K/metres away on cw is what I expect and not QRS 20,000, where > it takes months to send a DOT. > It is easy to generate a 9 kcs signal and high power audio amplifiers are > plentiful to radiate several K/watts to a loaded inverted L 20 + metres > high. > This is the easiest band to set up, the only time consuming part is winding > a suitable loading coil. > Instead of going to Spain or Portugal for holidays I would suggest > discerning vlf operators stay at home and wind coils this year. > I am staying at home this year in case someone performs a MIRACLE and it > could be a German, English man is scared of being heard using HIGH power. > I do not want to miss the FUN > 73 and gl de mal/g3kev