Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.5]) by air-df07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF071-5efa4c292d261cd; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:15:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0578438000796; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OTNWA-0007Lo-Cs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:13:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OTNW9-0007Lf-Nq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:13:33 +0100 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OTNW9-0005kf-17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:13:33 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o5SNDUUY021808 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:13:31 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:13:27 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:13:27 +0200 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C70@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C70@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: Extreme Dreaming: Announcement for the 47 km band :-) Thread-Index: AcsW7Sjpl2Hr47eVRQuzQ8C+0LV9xwAE5vaqAASI4io= References: <6D39CC1F4253463CB8570333737E59AA@PCCasa><38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C1D@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de><38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C2E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de><8585FA1C733D9A42AEA98C724D8FB811C053AA@FBCMST18V01.fbc.local><38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C30@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de><48711884B26B40129A1D43EBB493A6BF@PCCasa><38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C69@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de><001401cb1645$ce9e81c0$4001a8c0@lark> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C6C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4C28C1C7.7000800@gmx.com> <008801cb16e3$671137c0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g>,<4C28E4C7.1040408@legal-medicine.de> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: Cc: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.156;28.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.28.230020 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB1717.83CF40C6" Subject: VLF: Extreme Dreaming: Announcement for the 47 km band :-) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/60307 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40054c292d1d1bfb X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB1717.83CF40C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear VLF, Today i have got the official permission of the german authorities for a= kite vertical antenna up to 300 m above ground! :-)) This permission is time limited to the 30th June 2012, which is a pretty= long time :-))))) Also, is limited to the location where i was QRV in the= last experiments (JN49IS). On each test (that MUST be during the daylight!) i have to inform the germ= an air-traffic control. This can be done by a telephone call, so no proble= m. The owner of the kite store told me that there are 200m long braids for su= ch kites available. So, when using a 300 m vertical antenna i will add thi= s braid to the 100 m braid that i am using all the time. When transmitting with that antenna on 8,97 kHz i have to reduce the L sin= ce my C is abt 3 times higher. But to get experience with such huge constr= uctions i will start just using a 200m vertical without changing the L. Th= is is a first step. My 600 W PA will have no problem with QSY since it is= a H bridge without an output transformer. It can itdown do DC ;-)=20 Having twice the C without changing the L (later i will reduce it to come= back to 8,97) will result in a resonance frequency of 8,97/sqrt(2) is abo= ut 6,34 kHz, the 47,3 km band. When applying 500W i suppose to radiate an= ERP of 16 mW!! In my 2nd test that was received by Paul Nicholson it was= 1,7 mW, so about 10 dB more in the next test. The exact frequency has to= be found in some measurements and is caused by the real resonance of the= system. So 6,34 kHz is just a number. But since i have the 30 mH variomet= er i am sure to make it adjustable within a range of some Hz. Let's see what can be achieved with such an antenna on that frequency. There were at least 10 RX stations who demonstated to have most suitable= VLF RX possibilities in the last tests!Who of those (and others) are inte= rested to try an attempt to receive such a signal in good old DFCW-600 ? This will be an exciting summer/autumn/winter, isn't it? Also on 137 kHz= ;-)... *amhappy*=20 =20 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: If using 300m i will come down to 5,18 kHz, the 58 km band ;-) ...and= having 32 mW ERP ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB1717.83CF40C6 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhwXAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAOwAAAFZMRjogRXh0cmVtZSBEcmVh bWluZzogQW5ub3VuY2VtZW50IGZvciB0aGUgNDcga20gYmFuZCA6LSkAWBMBBYADAA4AAADaBwYA HQABAA0AGwACAC8BASCAAwAOAAAA2gcGAB0AAQANABsAAgAvAQEJgAEAIQAAADQ2OUNGMkZGOThD NjYyNDI4MjQ5QUI5RDUwNzgzMUE4ACoHAQOQBgDIEwAAOAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AMZAz4MXF8sB HgA9AAEAAAAGAAAAVkxGOiAAAAACAUcAAQAAADIAAABjPURFO2E9IDtwPUhTVDtsPUZJTEUtU0VS VkVSLUgtMTAwNjI4MjMxMzI3Wi0xMDQ4AAAAHgBJAAEAAAApAAAAUkU6IFZMRjogU3Ryb25nIGRy aWZ0aW5nIGNhcnJpZXIgb24gVkxGIQAAAABAAE4AAJ98rgEXywEeAFoAAQAAACMAAABvd25lci1y c2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAAACAVsAAQAAAGMAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd 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