Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.129]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-86114c239b12340; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:51:14 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5B84338001BBB; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ORqYy-0003PM-3u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:50:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ORqYx-0003PD-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:50:07 +0100 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ORqYx-0005Mm-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:50:07 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o5OHo6mN020862 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:50:06 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:50:05 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:47:41 +0200 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C62@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C62@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: LF: Antenna wire Thread-Index: AcsTvaUEvVk/SmIqR5W1mVCFnIDu9wAB7MqX References: <6DEA7E8987244A48846E44813972D608@TonyLaptop> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.147;24.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.24.173915 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB13C5.AD8576A6" Subject: AW: LF: Antenna wire X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/60168 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40814c239b091934 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB13C5.AD8576A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, that telephone drop wire is an excellent choice! I use one single cab= le of that (normally 2 twisted cables of course) on my 100m vertical anten= na in /p. I have built it up and down several times without any problems..= . =20 73 es GL, =20 Stefan ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Graham Gesendet: Do 24.06.2010 18:47 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: Antenna wire Tony, =20 Depends on the un supported span , I think RG58 was used by DL station= s a while ago as 80 mtr dipoles, I use the old 7 strand conduit (35= amp ?) at home and the 600 ft delta loop at gb4fpr also uses this= with 200 ft sides, some sag has occurred, but the wire is still in= place , I'm not sure if the pvc coating or the location by sea , may= be both, causes quite a build up of static on the Ae=20 =20 when we replaced the long wire, I used the telephone drop-wire , 4= conductors and 3 steel support cables in a pvc outer , the previous ae= used conduit cable. =20 I didn't foresee any problems in using the phone cable , the span is= 750 feet , took a little tug to get it tight , but there is very = little sag and the electrical performance is quite impressive , Andy's= G4JNT cw beacon reads 3/4 scale on the JRC rx S-Meter and the Q on hf= looks to be good , although to be fair the wire is 90 foot above the= sea/beach , not proportionally high, but clear of objects=20 =20 Though I would from my own experience, suggest that addressing the fee= d and current distribution in a vertical antenna , be it quite short,= may give unexpected performance on 500.=20 =20 G ..=20 =20 =20 From: Tony Baldwin =20 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Antenna wire Sorry to ask a stupid newbie question but what is the best wire for my aer= ial ? I had thought about getting a couple of 100m rolls of cheapo RG58 and sold= ering the centre and screen together, or is there a better way ? 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