Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.139]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-864a4c2398ed8; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:42:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7884238000CFC; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ORqQ5-0003Ih-44 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:40:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ORqQ4-0003IV-M7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:40:56 +0100 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ORqQ4-0005IP-0G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:40:56 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o5OHesLK016583 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:40:54 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:40:54 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:36:05 +0200 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C61@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C61@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: Antenna wire Thread-Index: AcsTsToU7D6zQvHgQFq9BNTdiw8jtgAEn82J References: <6DEA7E8987244A48846E44813972D608@TonyLaptop> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.147;24.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.24.173017 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB13C4.653D00AC" Subject: LF: AW: Antenna wire X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/60168 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408b4c2398e665db X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB13C4.653D00AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony, =20 If it doesn't matter about the weight of that cable, RG58 is not a too bad= idea if there is a need to handle very high voltages. But since you told= us you will have a very long wire your antenna C will be high and so your= L will be low and so your antenna voltage will be low as well. So there= is probably no need to have an extra big wire. You can just take a thin= wire, e.g. 1mm diameter. It has a little more resistance but that doesn't= matter since the overall losses will be much more. So it's better to take many thin wires in parallel (spaced >1m) than one= big wire :-) =20 73, Stefan/DK7FC ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Tony Baldwin Gesendet: Do 24.06.2010 17:10 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Antenna wire Sorry to ask a stupid newbie question but what is the best wire for my aer= ial ? I had thought about getting a couple of 100m rolls of cheapo RG58 and sold= ering the centre and screen together, or is there a better way ? 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