Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.90]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-5f014c13401c8c; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:06:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2A36E3800008B; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ONLj7-00024O-Jb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:06:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ONLj7-00024D-6i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:06:01 +0100 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ONLj5-0005ep-3v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:06:01 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o5C85wjR022740 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:05:58 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:05:57 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:03:53 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C42@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C42@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: HV-Transformer experiment on 9kc Thread-Index: AcsJmD/I9OAloRZISbqYK/iZzsGmegACVErwABePq4AAAX9BrQ== References: <002401cb096b$7d950560$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003a01cb097f$640755d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C12878A.4080909@gmx.com> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.112;11.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.12.75421 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB0A06.16ADCA6A" Subject: LF: AW: HV-Transformer experiment on 9kc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/59701 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405a4c1340176edb X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB0A06.16ADCA6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wolf, =20 Ask DD7PC for a TV transformer, not a 50 Hz HV transformer! Marco has alre= ady ordered one from http://www.oppermann-electronic.de/html/teslatechnik.= html (Tesla82)... ...as mentioned before... =20 GL es 73, Stefan ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Wolf Ostwald Gesendet: Sa 12.06.2010 09:26 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: HV-Transformer experiment on 9kc Hi amigos groupos ! I tried the secondary of a HV transformer today to load the vertical as a= series load inductance, after inserting it, the Alpha signals were gone.= Removing it restored the signals.Fact is, a 50/60 Hz core has way too muc= h attenuation on 9kcs to be suitable, although it had a nice inductivity= , it always repeats itself : "there is no such thing as a free lunch in= physics" 73 de wolf df2py & di2bj =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB0A06.16ADCA6A Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjoIAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAJQAAAEFXOiBIVi1UcmFuc2Zvcm1l ciBleHBlcmltZW50IG9uIDlrYwDVDAEFgAMADgAAANoHBgAMAAoAAwA1AAYAOwEBIIADAA4AAADa BwYADAAKAAUAOQAGAEEBAQmAAQAhAAAAN0U5REMwNUEwMEREQUE0MjlBNDNENEFFRUVCQ0MxRjYA kAcBA5AGANQRAAA4AAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAfoOjzAUKywEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABBVzogAAAAAAIB RwABAAAAMgAAAGM9REU7YT0gO3A9SFNUO2w9RklMRS1TRVJWRVItSFMtMTAwNjEyMDgwNTU3Wi0z 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