Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj04.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.88]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-a26e4c125f6d27f; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:08:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B827C3800130A; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ON6lL-0001n4-Ld for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:07:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ON6lL-0001mr-29 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:07:19 +0100 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ON6lJ-0007My-9C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:07:19 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o5BG7GBA005435 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:07:16 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:07:16 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:07:16 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: more from loaded aerial Thread-Index: AcsIKGjKsK5UVdcJTRaNiexvv3fsSgALocogABnAVncABD9bsAABmvf+ACDjGyAAAgThsAAAVEUgAARUYWAAAlCS4AAAidRZ References: <4C0C10E1.4090804@freenet.de><4C0C15BB.9010602@gmx.com><4C0C1960.5050708@freenet.de><4C0C1C35.2080401@gmx.com><4C0EB8AC.2070508@freenet.de> <53EF46B489244A09B02F194D6CD79DAB@df2py> <4C101E1F.7010501@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3E76E4DCF3684D3E99582E065CA7486E@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C39@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <5E86B9622E084C7AABBED3AA4DF93ABF@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <008901cb0961$23480030$0217aac0@desktop> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3B@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4F1FCFEDFEBB40719E4D9FE7150B6102@df2py> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.111;11.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.11.160016 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB0980.2925E638" Subject: LF: AW: more from loaded aerial X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/59670 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a84c125f6a6d62 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB0980.2925E638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes! But there is also a E field when you are transmitting on a loop, even in= the near field. It is just not optimal but anyway you can check frequency= stability, efficiency improvements and so on. Recently i have done this test with the 120m earth antenna and my RX ant= is also a small active E field antenna. =20 I am looking forward for a QSO between us both, at least in DFCW-3. This= may come faster than we assume now ;-) =20 Additionally our distance is not very far so we could arrange a meeting,= maybe together with DD7PC and co. Than we could discuss live. What do you= think about that? Yesterday, as i drove on the hill, my car broke down and cannot be started= any more :-( I have to repair some parts. Thus, i am now active in a Volk= swagen group and do measurements on an other front ;-) Hope it works again= soon... =20 73, Stefan ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Wolf Ostwald Gesendet: Fr 11.06.2010 17:46 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: more from loaded aerial Hi Stefan ! Thanks for the suggestions :-) I think one of the problems with detection in the near field was, that I= am transmitting an H-field and DD7PC uses an E-field antenna. I guess tha= t was the problem here.But for "DX" the vertical will be better anyways. 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