Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.10]) by air-mb08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB082-a7d84c0bf85435a; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:34:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0DA0338000093; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OLLba-0002TS-45 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:33:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OLLbZ-0002TJ-NP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:33:57 +0100 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OLLbX-0005Jx-38 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:33:57 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o56JXr3b027454 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:33:53 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:33:53 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:28:53 +0200 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C27@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C27@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: Re: 9 kcs Thread-Index: AcsFp7hbvm5NvPNzSxaOH49n4hs+3QABsd2e References: <004801cb04d6$e9740b80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001101cb054f$49a29c60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <52F731AEBF244DE99A2D6D5162CE2296@JimPC> <4C0BDEFA.80505@freenet.de> <002301cb05a6$4a0172b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C0BEAB4.4050509@gmx.com> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.100;06.06.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.6.6.192415 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: 9 kcs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB05AF.3268C752" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/59469 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4c0bf85127aa X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB05AF.3268C752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,=20 =20 Markus and me have used 0,4mm diameter enamelled copper wire. I got those= 2km wire from a company that produces special transformers. Those 2km wir= e cost about 40 Euro. The water barrel i am using costs about 14 Euro, so= all in all nothing compared to the usual equipment of the appliance opera= tors on HF (e.g. auto tuner). =20 73, Stefan ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Mike.WE0H Gesendet: So 06.06.2010 20:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: 9 kcs What would be a good affordable wire to wind a base loading coil from? It can't be too small diameter or the losses will be huge. That is the only part of the station that seems like a big undertaking. The rest of the components are low cost and easy to build. 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