Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.15]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC061-a96f4c12661b187; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:36:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dg07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A7ABF380000A1; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ON7Ci-0004gh-8d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:35:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ON7Ch-0004gY-St for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:35:35 +0100 Received: from mailout07.t-online.de ([194.25.134.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ON7Cf-0000Di-53 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:35:35 +0100 Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de (fwd01.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout07.t-online.de with smtp id 1ON7Ce-0004Lz-EH; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:35:32 +0200 Received: from df2py (SaH2I-Z-ohQg184IUm-yVZ7Znbz9qC+cuuBYtauMZh8P4jtNthCilcnAXhE7fN0gwl@[80.187.101.41]) by fwd01.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ON7Ca-0Bg1lw0; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:35:28 +0200 From: "Wolf Ostwald" To: References: <4C0C10E1.4090804@freenet.de><4C0C15BB.9010602@gmx.com><4C0C1960.5050708@freenet.de><4C0C1C35.2080401@gmx.com><4C0EB8AC.2070508@freenet.de> <53EF46B489244A09B02F194D6CD79DAB@df2py> <4C101E1F.7010501@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3E76E4DCF3684D3E99582E065CA7486E@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C39@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <5E86B9622E084C7AABBED3AA4DF93ABF@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <008901cb0961$23480030$0217aac0@desktop> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3B@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4F1FCFEDFEBB40719E4D9FE7150B6102@df2py> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:36:14 +0200 Message-ID: <2E40942B0BF542AE94EE305B8EB155B6@df2py> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsIKGjKsK5UVdcJTRaNiexvv3fsSgALocogABnAVncABD9bsAABmvf+ACDjGyAAAgThsAAAVEUgAARUYWAAAlCS4AAAidRZAAEjuWA= In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C3C@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000DDD42F76C12F0E4CAA702CEF260BB34E44832D00 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-ID: SaH2I-Z-ohQg184IUm-yVZ7Znbz9qC+cuuBYtauMZh8P4jtNthCilcnAXhE7fN0gwl X-TOI-MSGID: 4141b9c4-0635-4a29-bc16-0c4425b8e8d3 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: again more from loaded aerial Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CB0994.F9A65B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/59672 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410f4c12661817aa X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CB0994.F9A65B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan ! Bad luck with the car - hope it`s an easy fix. Well, I am going to construct the Vertical with the topload later. The topload is a triangle with a sidelength of about 20m, then from each corner there are wires going to the center of the triangle, that's where they meet and where the vertical wire drops down about 25m- do You have a notion what the overall capacity would be like ? What size of coil wire do you recommend ? 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