Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.77]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD052-8b854c0a946a2a6; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:16:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D896E380000C3; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OKxtv-000419-Bc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:15:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OKxtu-000410-SY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:15:18 +0100 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OKxtr-00084g-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:15:18 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au8FAAMxCkxcEYB//2dsb2JhbACBQ4Fai24Dj0dxrUqQEoJOgVtuBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,367,1272841200"; d="scan'208,217";a="307564705" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.17.128.127]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 05 Jun 2010 19:15:10 +0100 Message-ID: <006b01cb04db$07188ef0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <004801cb04d6$e9740b80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <211565202.1516106.1275760828143.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb034> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 19:15:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: 9 kcs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01CB04E3.68B46050" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d4c0a94651ca7 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CB04E3.68B46050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Horst St=C3=B6cker=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: 9 kcs Mal, we're in the beginning with all that. Remember: When I first re= ad about experiments at 9kHz it was just a few guys that did mostly a= few 100m. Then activity stopped for years. After I asked here in the= reflector for some others interested in this "band", things started= to move. Just a short while for all that happened. Many things were written about RX, about DX with erected antenna and= about my (and others) "garden fence" experiments with small erected= antennas and earth antennas. Enough for just not waiting but do it yo= urself. The earth antenna is just a kind of antenna. Even my marconi antenna= is inducting, not just radiating. It is inducing a lot less than spikes and wires lying on the ground. To cover a good distance an elevated and loaded antennas is the only= way, anything else is a waste of time g3kev Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Von: mal hamilton Gesendet: 05.06.2010 19:45:39 An: rsgb Betreff: LF: 9 kcs What is happening on 9 kcs, some seem to be aiming for earth induc= ed signals downward penetration with earth rods etc while some are try= ing elevated antennas for long haul.=20 I am interested in elevated antennas long haul experiments but I= think I am wasting my time. The chance of me hearing some of these signals is non existant bar= a Miracle. Information is also scarce in the UK especially about rece= iving capabilities, what is being heard especially alpha signals, stre= ngth, audibility and general band noise. g3kev =20 =20 GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle WEB.DE Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! = =20 Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CB04E3.68B46050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010= 7:00=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 9 kcs

Mal, we're in the beginning with all that. Remember: When I fir= st read=20 about experiments at 9kHz it was just a few guys that did mostly a= few 100m.=20 Then activity stopped for years. After I asked here in the reflector= for some=20 others interested in this "band", things started to move. Just a sho= rt while=20 for all that happened.
Many things were written about RX, about= DX with=20 erected antenna and about my (and others) "garden fence" experiments= with=20 small erected antennas and earth antennas. Enough for just not waiti= ng but do=20 it yourself.
The earth antenna is just a kind of antenna. Even my= marconi=20 antenna is inducting, not just radiating.
It is inducing a lot less than spikes and wires lying on the=20 ground.
To cover a good distance an elevated and loaded antennas is the= only way,=20 anything else is a waste of time
g3kev

Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN


Von: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Gesen= det:=20 05.06.2010 19:45:39
An: rsgb=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Betreff: LF: 9 kcs<= BR>
What= is happening=20 on 9 kcs, some seem to be aiming for earth induced signals downwar= d=20 penetration with earth rods etc while some are trying elevated ant= ennas for=20 long haul.
I am= interested in=20 elevated antennas long haul experiments but I think I am wast= ing my=20 time.
The ch= ance of me=20 hearing some of these signals is non existant bar a Miracle. Infor= mation is=20 also scarce in the UK especially about receiving capabilities, wha= t is being=20 heard especially alpha signals, strength, audibility and general= band=20 noise.
 
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