Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.83]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA042-b5154c24dfe9df; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:57:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BDBAE38000262; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OSCBL-000684-Rh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:55:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OSCBL-00067v-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:55:11 +0100 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OSCBK-0005fm-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:55:11 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMKAAZ8JExOk8j4/2dsb2JhbACHY4ssjDFxwjqFIQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,482,1272841200"; d="scan'208";a="451366428" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.147.200.248]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2010 17:55:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002901cb1487$29189b10$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <6DEA7E8987244A48846E44813972D608@TonyLaptop> <002301cb13b3$fe031640$4001a8c0@lark> <4C2468E5.14422.A52B82@dave.davesergeant.com> <8E4FC73E19264769BDD773018FF63E7A@TonyLaptop> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:55:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Antenna wire Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40534c24dfe04544 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 He is winding u folks up !!!!!!!!!! A radio amateur for 40 years and never heard of WIRE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baldwin" To: Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Antenna wire > Sorry to bewilder you Dave, but when it comes to LF wire aerials I really am > a complete newbie. > Although I've been licenced for over 40 years now, I have spent all my time > up the "other end" of the spectrum. > > So, no I haven't really got 100m rolls of stranded cable kicking around in > my shack. I do have a 6 foot dish, a couple of 30 foot long 2m yagis etc, > etc, so any wire needed for a 136 aerial I will have to go out and buy, and > before I did that I wanted to make sure that I wasn't wasting my money on > the wrong stuff, plus wire shops are few and far between down this neck of > the woods. > The only wire locally (nearest 15 miles) is CB & TV coax, twin and earth > electrical and electric fencing wire, anything else is a 120 mile round trip > to Cork city or arm and a leg postage. > Thanks for the tip about loudspeaker cable, that might be possible locally. > 73, Tony, EI8JK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Sergeant" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:29 AM > Subject: LF: Re: Antenna wire > > > >> Sorry to ask a stupid newbie question but what is the best wire for my > >> aerial ? I had thought about getting a couple of 100m rolls of cheapo > >> RG58 and soldering the centre and screen together, or is there a better > >> way ? Tony, EI8JK > >> > > > > I have been watching this thread with some bewilderment... > > > > If the antenna you are putting up is a form of longwire, dipole > > (shortened I guess..), doublet, G5RV etc then it honestly doesn't > > matter one bit. Any piece of cheap stranded wire will do, and the only > > requirements are mechanical, ie to ensure it stays up in the air. > > Normal stranded 19/.76 or whatever will do. Most of us have plenty of > > this lying around the shack. There is absolutely no purpose in using > > coax, or for that matter heavy electrical cable, as you will struggle > > to keep this horizontal and its weight will soon break the guys. > > > > If on the other hand you are talking about resonant loops, then it is > > important to keep the dc resistance as low as possible, especially on > > 136 where the radiation resistance is miniscule. When I used a loop on > > 136 I used heavy gauge loudspeaker cable, readily available in 100m > > rolls, with the pair shorted to make a single conductor. Don't bother > > with the 'oxygen free' stuff, that is throwing money down the drain.. I > > don't think coax, any sort, will give you as low a dc resistance. > > > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > > > > > > > >