From: "g3zjo" <g3zjo@npton.plus.com>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:21:13 +0100
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Subject: LF: RE: RE: RE: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx
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Hi Stefan

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Yes that's much better as a term; it had escaped fro my grey cells for
today. No doubt next time I shall call them 'back to back'.

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I now have an old 56k voice Modem less its S Mount 600ohm TX and all=
 is well
with my Sound card set up.

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Eddie

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Sch=E4fer [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On=
 Behalf
Of Stefan Sch=E4fer
Sent: 14 June 2010 11:20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: AW: RE: RE: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx

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Hi Eddie,

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"Antiparallel" is the description i normally use and i most often hear=
d for
such arrangements. :-)

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73, Stefan

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von g3zjo
Gesendet: Mo 14.06.2010 10:33
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: RE: RE: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx

Hi All

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I think I will add a 600ohm 1:1 transformer to my sound card LF set up=
 in
addition to the diodes I have at present.

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Incidentally it has suddenly struck me what a loose term 'back to back=
'
diodes is. It could be confusing for an enquirer. What is being referr=
ed to
here is 2 diodes in parallel across the input, one of them one connect=
ed one
way round and one the other.

Back to back diodes is also a term for two diodes in series connected=
 + to +
or - to -, putting the open ends of this combination across the input=
 would
do nothing to protect the circuit. Joining the open ends and placing=
 that
across the input would not be right either.

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Eddie G3ZJO

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Sch=E4fer [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On=
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Of Stefan Sch=E4fer
Sent: 13 June 2010 23:54
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: AW: RE: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx

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Hi Brian and also welcome :-)

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I would combinate back to back diodes with a isolating transformer for
audio. A combination of the hints you heared before ;-) The transforme=
r
prevents galvanic coupling (could become a problem even if your wire=
 is
grounded for high voltages by the diodes) and the diodes on the soundc=
ard
side are an additional safety factor that reduces voltage spikes. But=
 the
diodes start to conduct already at some 1/10 volts (depending on the
temperature) so you may use 2 in series each...

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73 es gl becoming QRV!!

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Stefan/DK7FC

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Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von James Cowburn
Gesendet: So 13.06.2010 20:09
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: RE: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx

Hi Brian

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Welcome to the reflector.   Back to back diodes are good option to lim=
it
surges and spikes, but others are more qualified than me to advise

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With best regards

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Jim

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Dr. James Cowburn  G7NKS

E james.cowburn@virgin.net

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Brian Reay
Sent: 13 June 2010 17:38
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Static protection when using a soundcard as an Rx

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Hi All,=20

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My first post to the reflector.

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I plan to try using a sound card and a "long wire" (well as long as I=
 can
fit into the garden) antenna and later a kit lofted antenna but I'm
concerned re static.=20

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Normally I'd add a "dc short" with an inductor but at 10kHz than is a=
 big
inductor. A resistor is another options.

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Does anyone have any other suggestions, please.

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73

Brian

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