Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.222]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-863e4bf44ab0127; Wed, 19 May 2010 16:31:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-df10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 42F623800008F; Wed, 19 May 2010 16:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OEpuc-00032w-L4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 21:30:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OEpuc-00032n-9O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 21:30:42 +0100 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OEpua-0006vn-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 21:30:42 +0100 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o4JKUfG3025167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:41 +0200 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id o4JKUfxi025164 for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4BF4477A.8080308@telia.com> Message-ID: References: <008f01caf784$779a11d0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <4BF4477A.8080308@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Alpha dashes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40de4bf44aaf5b75 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Wed, 19 May 2010, Johan H. Bodin wrote: > I have measured SAQ's "backwave" on a few occasions in the past and I > think it was about -17dB referred to key-down, about 4kW output. thanks for the info. a 4kW transmitter (but with an antenna orders of magnitude better) is a much better test of receive performance. according to the SAQ website they run the alternator on tuesday evenings, maybe they have the antenna connected, and we could use it for testing? > The Alpha signals, when active, are easily copied here using nothing > more than an piece of wire connected to an audio amplifier with hi-z input. exactly - not much of a test of receiver performance. btw in your location you can probably receive SAQ without the wire :) VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF