Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.93]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD044-86ac4be2dc9a368; Thu, 06 May 2010 11:13:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-md09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7184B3800016F; Thu, 6 May 2010 11:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OA2kE-0003n6-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 16:12:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OA2kE-0003mx-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 16:12:10 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OA2kB-0007SX-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 May 2010 16:12:10 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W26 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 6 May 2010 08:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.166] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 07:12:00 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9BCE59F3612041E2978D292C01D4E3E6@AGB> References: ,<9BCE59F3612041E2978D292C01D4E3E6@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2010 15:12:01.0240 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A775580:01CAED2E] X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE=1.543 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_35f51785-3601-49ba-bfdb-58f75c5634bb_" Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_LF:_Re?= =?Windows-1252?Q?:_LF:_500_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Permit_emi?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ssion=92s_ba?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ndwidth=3F_E?= =?Windows-1252?Q?U_and_Glob?= =?Windows-1252?Q?al_=3F=3F?= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605d4be2dc982350 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_35f51785-3601-49ba-bfdb-58f75c5634bb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and heres mine for my Alaskan 505-510Khz psrt 5 license example... =20 150HA1A 2K00G1D 64H0J2B 2K00J2D 2K80J3E 2K00K2D =20 =20 Laurence KL1X =20 > From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:20:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF: 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? EU and Globa= l ?? >=20 > Thanks Warren, >=20 > Post the ros-tests here may be a narrow version of the Ros data=20 > mode , but it looks like it will have to be 100 Hz and not 125 Hz or no= =20 > one will be able to use it (on 500) .. assuming the little problems=20 > are resolved , it will also run on hf and take much less space ... >=20 > Beacons may be able to run the eme mode as is ? >=20 > (eme is a live keyboard chat mode .. but only 1 baud, the new=20 > 'hf/mf' version will be faster. if its coded) >=20 > 73 - G.. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:01 PM > To: > Subject: LF: Re: LF: 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? EU and Global ?? >=20 > > > > Graham, > > > > In the US there is no amateur allocation only "Experimental > > Licenses" issued under Part 5 of the FCC Rules (Amateur is under Part > > 97 of the FCC Rules). Each Experimental license is unique, it is up to > > the applicant to request frequencies, power, modes, and bandwidth, it > > is up to the FCC to decide on a case by case basis if there is > > adequate justification for the request. The 500kHz license > > application that I filed (WE2XGR) specifies up to 1kHz for data and > > also allows for ssb. The WD2XSH license filed on behalf of the ARRL > > specifies cw and narrowband data (PSK, WSPR) only. > > > > --=20 > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ > > WD2XSH/23 > > WE2XEB/2 > > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Graham wrote= : > >> 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? > >> > >> > >> > >> Can any one indicated what is the permitted =91telegraphy=92 bandwidt= h=20 > >> of > >> the various =91new=92 500KHz licences or special permits issued round= the > >> EU and now the rest of the Globe ? > >> > >> > >> > >> I have the impression that 100 Hz is the maximum =91telegraphy=92=20 > >> transmission > >> bandwidth, in some cases, eg , Belgium at 100 Hz . Others appear to= be=20 > >> some > >> what wider or not defined ?. > >> > >> > >> > >> Norway is CW only ? what is the Dutch allocation ? Southern Ireland= ? > >> ... etc > >> > >> > >> > >> Are Beacons defined by mode or bandwidth ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Tnx =96 Graham > >> > >> G0NBD > >> > >> > >> > >> (I use the word =91telegraphy=92 as defined by the ITU R V.662-3 , pl= ease > >> no reference to key clicks ! ) > >> > >> > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with= Hotmail.=20 http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=3Dmulticalendar&ocid= =3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5=3D --_35f51785-3601-49ba-bfdb-58f75c5634bb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and heres mine for my Alaskan 505-510Khz psrt 5 license example...
 

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> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
> To: rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:20:41 +0100
> Subje= ct: Re: LF: Re: LF: 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? EU and Global ??>
> Thanks Warren,
>
> Post the ros-tests here may= be a narrow version of the Ros data
> mode , but it looks like it= will have to be 100 Hz and not 125 Hz or no
> one will be able to= use it (on 500) .. assuming the little problems
> are resolved ,= it will also run on hf and take much less space ...
>
> Beac= ons may be able to run the eme mode as is ?
>
> (eme is a liv= e keyboard chat mode .. but only 1 baud, the new
> 'hf/mf' version= will be faster. if its coded)
>
> 73 - G..
>
>=
>
> --------------------------------------------------
&= gt; From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday= , May 06, 2010 3:01 PM
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>> Subject: LF: Re: LF: 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth? EU and Globa= l ??
>
> >
> > Graham,
> >
> >= In the US there is no amateur allocation only "Experimental
> >= Licenses" issued under Part 5 of the FCC Rules (Amateur is under Part
= > > 97 of the FCC Rules). Each Experimental license is unique, it is= up to
> > the applicant to request frequencies, power, modes, an= d bandwidth, it
> > is up to the FCC to decide on a case by case= basis if there is
> > adequate justification for the request. Th= e 500kHz license
> > application that I filed (WE2XGR) specifies= up to 1kHz for data and
> > also allows for ssb. The WD2XSH lice= nse filed on behalf of the ARRL
> > specifies cw and narrowband= data (PSK, WSPR) only.
> >
> > --
> > 73 Warr= en K2ORS
> > WD2XGJ
> > WD2XSH/23
> > WE2XEB/2<= BR>> > WE2XGR/1
> >
> >
> >
> >= On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wr= ote:
> >> 500 Permit emission=92s bandwidth?
> >><= BR>> >>
> >>
> >> Can any one indicated= what is the permitted =91telegraphy=92 bandwidth
> >> of
= > >> the various =91new=92 500KHz licences or special permits iss= ued round the
> >> EU and now the rest of the Globe ?
>= >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have the im= pression that 100 Hz is the maximum =91telegraphy=92
> >> tra= nsmission
> >> bandwidth, in some cases, eg , Belgium at 100= Hz . Others appear to be
> >> some
> >> what wid= er or not defined ?.
> >>
> >>
> >>> >> Norway is CW only ? what is the Dutch allocation ? Southern= Ireland ?
> >> ... etc
> >>
> >>
&= gt; >>
> >> Are Beacons defined by mode or bandwidth ?> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tnx =96= Graham
> >>
> >> G0NBD
> >>
>= >>
> >>
> >> (I use the word =91telegraphy= =92 as defined by the ITU R V.662-3 , please
> >> no reference= to key clicks ! )
> >>
> >>
> >
>= >
>
>
>

The= New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hot= mail. Get busy. =3D --_35f51785-3601-49ba-bfdb-58f75c5634bb_--