Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.133]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC053-a9694bf37d2237e; Wed, 19 May 2010 01:54:42 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4517D380000FA; Wed, 19 May 2010 01:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OEcDv-0001ze-6v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:53:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OEcDu-0001zV-R5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:53:42 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OEcDs-0000cz-Lm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:53:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-221-89-85.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.89.85]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LaYSx-1NZBbO2AVL-00lhT2; Wed, 19 May 2010 07:53:33 +0200 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 06:53:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4BF37CDE.22872.16F68A@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <46148C4AA5164D30B4E3186D6C534215@JimPC> References: <002701caf394$44cbd980$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>, <4BF27269.2020603@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <46148C4AA5164D30B4E3186D6C534215@JimPC> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.52) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/K7iHNz2FPBXjNvByQhtTrg3ld/im+nsF+2C/ HkHYh9k88aBT4ExaeUapxs24lALRDj0JLPbu+0SyyhFyIeIbNF JAGBxjBvRuo7/Ar3MBY0vBeJz9rjxIT X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: DK7FCs 5th VLF experiment... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40854bf37d2142ea X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 18 May 2010 at 21:55, James Moritz wrote: > > I was just curious to know if you tried this, and if so, how loud the > results were... Back in 2000, I did some tests on 136k and 73k from the > 100m high Decca Navigator mast at Puckeridge. The receive SNR was > actually very good, thanks to the quiet rural location, but it did need > about 40dB of attenuation at the RX input. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > I remember calling you with that big signal from Puckeridge Jim with my 136kHz loop and getting no response.... I was a bit surprised as I was working quite a lot of stuff at that range and further so would have thought it would have been no problem. There was somewhat of a pileup at the time (yes, even on 136..) but even so I was disappointed not to have got through as one would have expected the receive performance of a vertical that size to be far better than your average home station. Maybe that 40dB attenuation completely cancelled it out... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com