Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.86]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-864a4beac2ad272; Wed, 12 May 2010 11:01:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-md02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8ADC5380000F9; Wed, 12 May 2010 11:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OCDP6-0004un-5A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 15:59:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OCDP5-0004ue-Mh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 15:59:19 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OCDP3-0006dZ-80 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 15:59:19 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4CEx4dU023986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 16:59:04 +0200 Received: from [129.206.29.99] (pc99.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.99]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id o4CExGp9020265 for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 16:59:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4BEAC23A.9040402@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 16:59:06 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: , <28093526.109907.1273582377168.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078>, <4BE97E93.12009.23FC007@dave.davesergeant.com> <4BE9ABA8.5000801@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4BEAA568.2060507@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <002501caf1da$fcb20490$4001a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002501caf1da$fcb20490$4001a8c0@lark> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id o4CEx4dU023986 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 12V/300W VLF PA circuit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60564beac2ab7995 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Alan, The ICL7667 is a double FET driver (inverting!):=20 http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheets2/14/147008_1.pdf So, if the both Qs are high, the outputs/gates are both grounded. You=20 just have to be sure that the VFO is connected before pushing PTT, as i=20 mentioned. It was rather my goal to built an easy and well working circuit without=20 to much protection circuits, than building the "perfect" PA in a 6RU 19=20 zoll Rack with a loud exhaust and 50% efficiency (like many HF amps) ;-). There has never occurred a fault with this PA yet. There is still the=20 first pair of FETs in use ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 12.05.2010 15:42, schrieb Alan Melia: > Hi Stefan. I am not sure what the ICL7667 is but if it is a FET driver= chip > similar to the Texas TC4426 the outputs go high when the drive is remove= d. > See the 136 PAs by G3YXM and G0MRF for keying ideas.....they key the sup= ply > to the chip which is safer. > This effect accounts one of the few FETs lost to Class-E LF PAs we > experimented with. > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:56 PM > Subject: VLF: 12V/300W VLF PA circuit > > > =20 >> Dear VLF, >> >> At http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/12V_300W_VLF_PA.pdf >> you can get the circuit of my 300W PA i used at all the VLF experiments= . >> The circuit is made in my well known simple hand drawing ;-) >> >> Many stns (at least 10) have recorded my 8,97 kHz signal so you know >> that the circuit is working. The efficiency is about 100%, the heat sin= k >> becomes not even hand warm during a 30 min 300W carrier. The output >> power is at least 300W CW, maybe more is possible. I haven't tested tha= t >> yet. >> >> One hint: The VFO has to run before you push PTT. Otherwise one FET is >> switching the whole time and the fuse will melt! There are several >> options that can be added to the circuit (e.g. current limiting, >> overvoltage protection, temperature regulated fan, SWR bridge...) but= i >> wanted to keep it as easy as possible. There is an optional fiber optic >> cable PTT input to totally decouple the PC from the PA. This also works >> very sufficient. >> >> This circuit uses an ferrite output transformer of unknown material. Bu= t >> it is not critical. Just try what you have, maybe with a power supply >> with current limiting. In that circuit, the current without a connected >> load is less than 150 mA (this makes it very suitable for /p operation >> as well). If you try another ferrite core, you have to check for proper >> primary turns number. If the number of turns is to less, the core will >> go into saturation (with or without a load, so check it without a load, >> just the primary winding). This can be seen either by watching the inpu= t >> DC current or by watching the Drain-Source voltage. If it is in >> saturation, the rectangular edges/slope (falling slope) becomes round. >> Something between 2x 3...5 turns may be a good value. >> In my configuration the PA works from 8...100 kHz. increasing or >> decreasing the operating frequency is another way to check if the >> primary turns are optimal. I can give more detailed infos, if wanted in >> a concrete case. >> >> The circuit handles reactive power without problems! This is the >> opposite to some audio amps ;-) Another advantage is, that the output= is >> isolated from the input. >> >> The PA works at 12V (11...14V) and can be used with batteries of course= . >> It needs the douple output frequency at the input, means you have to >> apply 17,94 kHz to get a 8,97 kHz output frequency. The input frequency >> should be rectangular with about 12Vp. >> >> Have fun and make the band alive ;-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> =20 > =20