Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.10]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE012-5ea34bef08c4390; Sat, 15 May 2010 16:49:08 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D01ED38000132; Sat, 15 May 2010 16:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ODOHW-0002FZ-Is for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 21:48:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ODOHW-0002FQ-5J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 21:48:22 +0100 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ODOHU-0006PC-0I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 21:48:22 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o4FKmHDR002891 for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 22:48:17 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 22:48:17 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:45:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BEF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BEF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: LF: ref LD30 Thread-Index: Acr0K1wbyANUfadxSzKQ2s5PRSiAzwARDZF9 References: <002701caf394$44cbd980$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4BEE8B1B.502@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4BEE8E75.3050506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <001101caf42a$e6d987e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 21.54;15.05.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.5.15.203315 X-PMX-RELAY: mailout X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: AW: LF: ref LD30 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAF46F.F232D5AC" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/58632 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4bef08c27259 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF46F.F232D5AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,=20 =20 That's fine! So you could use 1mm diameter enamelled wire for minimal loss= es. Also the HV will be rather smaller. Sounds promising... =20 73, GL =20 Stefan/DK7FC =20 ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von mal hamilton Gesendet: Sa 15.05.2010 14:34 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: ref LD30 Stefan My Loading coil inductance at 137 is around 0.5mH therefore at 9 kHz it sh= ould be roughly 116 mH. Not such a big coil in my case. Tnx info de Mal/g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer = =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: ref LD30 ...means L(9kHz) =3D L(137kHz)*232 =20 =20 =20 =20 Am 15.05.2010 13:52, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:=20 Mal,=20 =20 I assume you know your antenna capacitance so you can easily calcu= late your needed inductance. Or, if you know your L for 137kHz, it will be= about (137/9)^2 at 9 kHz! =20 Stefan/DK7FC =20 =20 Am 14.05.2010 20:35, schrieb mal hamilton:=20 Well, I am getting 15v sine wave into a 50 ohm DL with the= LD30, this looks promising. All I need now is a 500W audio amp suitably= matched into 50 ohms. I prefer to keep a standard 50 ohm system for measuring purpos= esd. or I could change the 15v to sq wave and build a class D fet amp,= maybe a better approach. If I proceed the Ant system would consist of 3 x inv L antenna= s in parallel, height about 100 ft and each one about 500 ft horizontal. Will have to calculate the loading coil L maybe less than 1 H= with some luck This is just a proposal at present de mal/g3kev =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAF46F.F232D5AC Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhIUAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAEQAAAEFXOiBMRjogcmVmIExEMzAA LgQBBYADAA4AAADaBwUADwAWAC0AJAAGAGIBASCAAwAOAAAA2gcFAA8AFgAwABEABgBSAQEJgAEA IQAAADM1NzY0M0IyRkI2QzU0NDJCNzdGRDZCM0ZBRjg4MkEzAEgHAQOQBgAAFgAAOAAAAAMANgAA AAAAQAA5AHLyX5Jv9MoBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAQVc6IAAAAAACAUcAAQAAADEAAABjPURFO2E9IDtw PUhTVDtsPUZJTEUtU0VSVkVSLUhTVC0xMDA1MTUyMDQ4MTdaLTIAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAARAAAAUmU6 IExGOiByZWYgTEQzMAAAAABAAE4AANkd5ir0ygEeAFoAAQAAACMAAABvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dy b3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAAACAVsAAQAAAGMAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAABv d25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAFNNVFAAb3duZXItcnNnYl9sZl9ncm91 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