Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.74]) by air-di08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI083-eb684c012cdf1fa; Sat, 29 May 2010 11:04:00 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6197D380001B7; Sat, 29 May 2010 11:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OINYg-0002IJ-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 16:02:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OINYg-0002IA-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 16:02:42 +0100 Received: from smtp-out01.alice.it ([85.33.2.12]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OINYa-00036o-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 16:02:42 +0100 Received: from FBCMMO01.fbc.local ([192.168.68.195]) by smtp-out01.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 29 May 2010 17:02:29 +0200 Received: from FBCMCL01B04.fbc.local ([192.168.69.85]) by FBCMMO01.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 29 May 2010 17:02:29 +0200 Received: from PCCasa ([87.3.206.101]) by FBCMCL01B04.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 29 May 2010 17:02:29 +0200 Message-ID: <2001154D3B6D4DCD98B54D8D86E37E98@PCCasa> From: "Daniele Tincani" To: References: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1C00@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4BFFEECE.4040708@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4C00B3D8.40403@legal-medicine.de> <4C011C98.4020009@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4C011C98.4020009@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 17:02:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2010 15:02:29.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[F522C6C0:01CAFF3F] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: VTX India @ 17 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604a4c012cde29c8 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, VLF, the M-Audio E-MU 0202 should work fairly good on USB and it costs arou= nd 100=20 euros. It only needs a PC powerful enough to manage the CPU-consuming= USB=20 interface. This should not represent an issue with modern multi-core= =20 processors. For my next improvement I choose the older M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI= =20 (96KHz max). About 75 euros on the bay. It also exists a version of 24= 96=20 with Firewire connection to the PC. Some more details at following link: http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html Regards Daniele ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: VLF: VTX India @ 17 kHz > Hello Peter, > > Tnx for your comments again! Yes, there are still some lines that sh= ould > not have to be where they are ;-) But anyway, it is the best recepti= on i > ever had. Now it's time to generate a test signal on the dreamers ba= nd ;-) > > Also tnx for your last mail. You said i can receive VTX India @17 kH= z. > This is one transmitter that is very weak but visible anyway. The > distance to me is 7795km. Very interesting: Type this in Google Eart= h: > "08.387015, 077.752762" and you can see the towers of the transmitte= r... > So, i spend a VTX window on the bottom of my 2nd grabber. VTX appear= s up > to 25dB above noise in 4,5mHz (equal to the DFCW-600 window). Slowly= i > get fascinated by the whole VLF band ;-) > > Peter (or others), do you know a USB soundcard, that is able to run= at > 96000 ksamples/s? There are a lot of USB soundcards that cost not ev= en 5 > EUR and do a very good job (currently i am using such one) but most= of > them have a filter for 48000 it seems... > > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 29.05.2010 08:27, schrieb pws: >> Hi Stefan, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> ... >>> Thus, the strong LF and MF broadcast signals are well attenuated, >>> as it seems. I am interested what happens in the night, when QRM= goes >>> down and the LF/MF DX window opens. The grabber2 is still availabl= e at >>> http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.h= tml >>> >> Looking good, congrats! I wonder about that signal visible at 2100= Hz. It >> shows a typical MSK-bandwidth and a diurnal run not unlike the othe= rs >> above. May be it's mirrored from next Nyquist-domain: >> 24000 + (24000-2100) =3D 45900 =3D=3D> NSY, Sicily, usually very= strong. >> >> Gruesse aus Kiel, >> Peter >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 9.0.819 / Database dei virus: 271.1.1/2902 - Data di rilasc= io:=20 05/28/10 22:17:00