Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.13]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF022-8bce4bfefa82397; Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-di09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CCCF838000085; Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OHm6t-000890-Fv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OHm6t-00088r-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:31 +0100 Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OHm6r-0001Zd-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:31 +0100 Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o4RN3BjK022097 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 19:03:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (unknown [92.18.173.174]) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id ECCB1E0000B1 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 19:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002b01cafdcc$a7375ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> References: <002b01cafdcc$a7375ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1275001390.825.21.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Stupid Crimals Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d400d4bfefa806909 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sorry Mal But that would also tend to suggest that it might be OK for an athlete to take performance-enhancing chemicals in order to achieve an "advantage" (your word) over less "advantaged" competitors in the quest for "DX". I'm not going to be "holier than thou" on this one but it does cause one pause for thought in terms of the morality of what is, after all, a hobby pursuit! 73 On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 19:44 +0100, mal hamilton wrote: > Warren > His problem was that he got caught. Throughout the world lots of radio > amateurs are running powers well above those permitted, especially when you > take antenna gain into consideration. > Big antennas with big gain on the higher freqs is not a crime. > At one stage I had stacked 14, 21, 28 and 50 mcs yagis that gave me a > terrific advantage although my RF did not exceed the permitted power. > eg 400 watts with a 10 dB gain yagi gave me 4 Kw radiated power. I also have > a NOV issued in 1962 for 1 kw power. > Lots of stns in the USA are generating big erp,s > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:04 PM > Subject: LF: OT Stupid Crimals > > > > Alan Potter ZL3II was busted by the NZ telecoms agency for running > > excessive power (3100 Watts - the NZ limit is 500W PEP). > > > > The funny part is that he was caught because he posted a video on > > Youtube demonstrating his 3100W setup! > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ > > WD2XSH/23 > > WE2XEB/2 > > WE2XGR/1 > > > > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)