Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.84]) by air-di02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI024-eabd4beab4081e2; Wed, 12 May 2010 09:58:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CFD44380000A6; Wed, 12 May 2010 09:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OCCQr-00086A-2K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:57:05 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OCCQq-000861-HJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:57:04 +0100 Received: from smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OCCQo-0004b1-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:57:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 12269 invoked from network); 12 May 2010 13:56:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=ERi0T+MW/ZU650JVsZA13TlnMl1aLXryRPzGXYbZisLKS4BNjThbwprRVULXuSc4+17Po/RUIdmRDBlV80QZy0oUY1ggNDfYtDD94DG6BBp0l+/CQNkzemu9tIj4NnX2chwDvh5eHExL1StzgZMXOxrfE+3cBUIa+K4J1nDq3gE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1273672616; bh=9MM0gFDRfFuoLYwGsQXLPpjr9+6nNh98DFYoLMieaZk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=qYX+9DvAKe8I1v7EIrmdhUub1nCt0oW/Bun1km3fyuSu65o1/ryd3h7WhVoTJqQ+35EkPvZkHMTKXMqiqtCKWBGp7fYSFkLhULY8E76WTtrQ/pKduTT5bMdUtTnQ4wDEX8xV+Oq/YjXe+8R+AC8KZKkUW7z1XhyXDOvLcYr7jDo= Received: from lark (alan.melia@81.153.0.246 with login) by smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2010 13:56:56 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: nqjk3rgVM1mlHUPMik57NBk8ibHanzZ5JUNfcmnU_.dxMgsC.6PN.WppRKbEj3yRcFGCcTnezdPgwO70JO1.A9JTVv.0WHXoqKakoexvS9JgIvcGlZgk9uIm2OvOt9JR9M5IKeIwTpGMoz0FffftUgur3y93pW3GhzYIvoemss__yfHX8oOgED7ro6wCbMtrHw5U97Yxyq9jrou4wHsswm1z2ZgMpDVAU6MPTcCEywHQrxsXBqtqMBWBpLJPEf3fCSXCmhx1CAdmUTadYF.aZJuMWme32Qk8uYP2vQb4ZYA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002501caf1da$fcb20490$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: , <28093526.109907.1273582377168.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078>, <4BE97E93.12009.23FC007@dave.davesergeant.com> <4BE9ABA8.5000801@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4BEAA568.2060507@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:42:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100512-0, 12/05/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 12V/300W VLF PA circuit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m210.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60544beab40613f0 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan. I am not sure what the ICL7667 is but if it is a FET driver= chip similar to the Texas TC4426 the outputs go high when the drive is remo= ved. See the 136 PAs by G3YXM and G0MRF for keying ideas.....they key the= supply to the chip which is safer. This effect accounts one of the few FETs lost to Class-E LF PAs we experimented with. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: VLF: 12V/300W VLF PA circuit > Dear VLF, > > At http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/12V_300W_VLF_PA.pdf > you can get the circuit of my 300W PA i used at all the VLF experime= nts. > The circuit is made in my well known simple hand drawing ;-) > > Many stns (at least 10) have recorded my 8,97 kHz signal so you know > that the circuit is working. The efficiency is about 100%, the heat= sink > becomes not even hand warm during a 30 min 300W carrier. The output > power is at least 300W CW, maybe more is possible. I haven't tested= that > yet. > > One hint: The VFO has to run before you push PTT. Otherwise one FET= is > switching the whole time and the fuse will melt! There are several > options that can be added to the circuit (e.g. current limiting, > overvoltage protection, temperature regulated fan, SWR bridge...) bu= t i > wanted to keep it as easy as possible. There is an optional fiber op= tic > cable PTT input to totally decouple the PC from the PA. This also wo= rks > very sufficient. > > This circuit uses an ferrite output transformer of unknown material.= But > it is not critical. Just try what you have, maybe with a power suppl= y > with current limiting. In that circuit, the current without a connec= ted > load is less than 150 mA (this makes it very suitable for /p operati= on > as well). If you try another ferrite core, you have to check for pro= per > primary turns number. If the number of turns is to less, the core wi= ll > go into saturation (with or without a load, so check it without a lo= ad, > just the primary winding). This can be seen either by watching the= input > DC current or by watching the Drain-Source voltage. If it is in > saturation, the rectangular edges/slope (falling slope) becomes roun= d. > Something between 2x 3...5 turns may be a good value. > In my configuration the PA works from 8...100 kHz. increasing or > decreasing the operating frequency is another way to check if the > primary turns are optimal. I can give more detailed infos, if wanted= in > a concrete case. > > The circuit handles reactive power without problems! This is the > opposite to some audio amps ;-) Another advantage is, that the outpu= t is > isolated from the input. > > The PA works at 12V (11...14V) and can be used with batteries of cou= rse. > It needs the douple output frequency at the input, means you have to > apply 17,94 kHz to get a 8,97 kHz output frequency. The input freque= ncy > should be rectangular with about 12Vp. > > Have fun and make the band alive ;-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >