Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.224]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF052-5ef34bffff0f3a2; Fri, 28 May 2010 13:36:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-df12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CF3053800469B; Fri, 28 May 2010 13:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OI3SJ-000096-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 18:34:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OI3SJ-00008x-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 18:34:47 +0100 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OI3SH-0005B6-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 May 2010 18:34:47 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswJAGeb/0tOk8D5/2dsb2JhbACHXoobjDdxwGSFFQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,319,1272841200"; d="scan'208";a="301370424" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([78.147.192.249]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 28 May 2010 18:34:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01cafe8c$0c4622c0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002b01cafdcc$a7375ee0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1275001390.825.21.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:34:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Stupid Crimals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40e04bffff0d2316 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Om What do you think about an amateur who has a large house and big garden or a farm with acres of land for antennas. 1. Should he sell up and move to a council house with no garden 2. Remove all antennas and use a partridge joy stick 3. Give up amateur radio because of his advantage 4. Use only QRP so that noone can hear him/her 5. Discourage all radio amateurs to improve their station. 6. If one gets a good signal report immediately ground the antenna in case this is seen as having an unfair advantage What point are you trying to make ? g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "g4gvw" To: Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: OT Stupid Crimals > Sorry Mal > But that would also tend to suggest that it might be OK for an athlete > to take performance-enhancing chemicals in order to achieve an > "advantage" (your word) over less "advantaged" competitors in the quest > for "DX". > I'm not going to be "holier than thou" on this one but it does cause one > pause for thought in terms of the morality of what is, after all, a > hobby pursuit! > > 73 > > > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 19:44 +0100, mal hamilton wrote: > > Warren > > His problem was that he got caught. Throughout the world lots of radio > > amateurs are running powers well above those permitted, especially when you > > take antenna gain into consideration. > > Big antennas with big gain on the higher freqs is not a crime. > > At one stage I had stacked 14, 21, 28 and 50 mcs yagis that gave me a > > terrific advantage although my RF did not exceed the permitted power. > > eg 400 watts with a 10 dB gain yagi gave me 4 Kw radiated power. I also have > > a NOV issued in 1962 for 1 kw power. > > Lots of stns in the USA are generating big erp,s > > G3KEV > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Warren Ziegler" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:04 PM > > Subject: LF: OT Stupid Crimals > > > > > > > Alan Potter ZL3II was busted by the NZ telecoms agency for running > > > excessive power (3100 Watts - the NZ limit is 500W PEP). > > > > > > The funny part is that he was caught because he posted a video on > > > Youtube demonstrating his 3100W setup! > > > > > > -- > > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > WD2XGJ > > > WD2XSH/23 > > > WE2XEB/2 > > > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > > > > -- > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw > qth nr felixstowe uk > (east coast, county of suffolk) > >