Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.15]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v128.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDB071-85f34bb5bea9d9; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:53:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E2E593800009B; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NxdY0-0001y3-9J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:52:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NxdXz-0001xu-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:52:15 +0100 Received: from mail-ww0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NxdXw-000448-Lw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:52:15 +0100 Received: by wwg30 with SMTP id 30so525696wwg.16 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:52:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=rcNQNdc9x+JZLHaAq+UJh9jftWFSLpoKPUDpb87TiCQ=; b=seoy/arXWiNZD4vnrhlDYZfATBFPvBn7EHOgpOyPsoNq3F0ij7AQESllsYr3WJIC35 iIwvP7qKhsTiCE7u0b6Q/5Yi812U3tAn1gGcftBIynvzTXFqysaRSUF6PiE2l2Ps1PJm QjxXRZecS/lHvC2QcVcKIx6zC0roeuDiYJ9xw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Aq/X6t5ra7SrGsGBrWFl5i5Zaq10IJs/YHnu3Z0Ni+C5+iiAz0fBG7rk91qeNyFTgt pJtZMTt8vGLmNEiedWiRPZBFfe3tl8M+AYEelrNu7VKmaHmlr0NrvmDeN4rPQE6TfQQe 8pLzzNYQ1IbUaaRQn5fF2jgIHjrN6uF6NAe8U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.144 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 02:52:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BBF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <001d01cad190$aa92e590$0901a8c0@lark> <841031C22EC944FEB2BB3E1DC237717E@acer3f31164f8b> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BBF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:52:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 105f94e4d907e782 Received: by 10.216.86.196 with SMTP id w46mr1077709wee.201.1270201926141; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: 4th VLF experiment by DK7FC/p Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99b9899c95b04833dee4c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d279.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600f4bb5bea6789a X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d99b9899c95b04833dee4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, LF, I will be monitoring your frequency using a M0BMU type 30 turn 0.8M square loop and 9kHz pre-amp into my PC sound card, software is SpecLab running Marcus's "9kHz_4mHz" configuration. This loop system has increased my reception of the Alpha signals by about 10db giving up to 25db SNR. Thanks to Jim for a great design. Stefan, can you tell me the QTH locator for your Tx site please. Good luck with the 4th test. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2010/4/2 Stefan Sch=E4fer > Dear group, > > After a break of one week i plan to transmit again on VLF / 8,97 kHz. If > the wind will be enough i will come up on saturday, 3. April, at arround= 10 > UTC. > > The DFCW-600 mode was a good choice in the last experiment, so i will ke= ep > this mode. > > If Markus/DF6NM has time to make QSP on the mobile phone to the reflecto= r > (Markus ?) we could arrange various tests. I will also call other local > stations for reception reports during the transmission. > > There will be some new components to test: > > Today i started building up the 600W class D PA (at least 600W) that is > directly fed out of the 230V (rectified) of the generator. PTT and VFO= input > is realised by fiber optic cables. The DC capacitor is 2000=B5F/350V and= can > be put on voltage without a NTC or charging resistor due to the relative= ly > high output impedance of the small generator (tested). This works very= fine > now. Tomorrow i will apply the FETs and the big ferrite core and it's > windings. Then i will do a test on a dummy load at home. If the signal= will > be 3dB stronger, we could theoretically change to DFCW-300 compared to= the > last experiment. But there are many OMs writing private mails to me and > prepare to be QRV on this next test. Some of them are using E-Field ante= nnas > and/or are more than 860km away, that' why i want to stay in QRSS-600 fi= rst. > So there might come a new distance record? In any case it will be exciti= ng > to me watching the new system running :-) Also it will be interesting to= see > if the E-field antenna will get the signal! > > The primary winding of the TX coil is increased from 9 to 13 turns due= to > the higher power that will be applied. Otherwise the current will become= to > high. > > I will mount the amperemeter (analog, 1A) into the coil. That makes it > easier to adjust to resonance and watch the stability and maximum and > average (estimation) current. > > Finally i will try to apply some copper rods into the earth and will loo= k > how the antenna current is changing. > > The goal is to radiate 4mW ERP. Another goal is to reach as many station= s > as possible. So i would be pleased if YOU would be one of them. :-) > > Since the QRM/QRN comes up in the late afternoon and transmitting for 4.= ..5 > hours i will close at about 15 UTC. So the planned LF activity is not > affected :-). Sorry, but i cannot participate on the LF acty later since= the > VLF coil takes all the place in my car ;-) > > I looking forward to this experiment and wish you good luck and fun by > receiving :-) > > 73 es gl, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: Could you give me a short feedback if you plan to be RX? > > > > --0016e6d99b9899c95b04833dee4c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, LF,

I will be monitoring your frequency usin= g a M0BMU type 30 turn 0.8M square loop and 9kHz pre-amp into my PC sound= card, software is SpecLab running Marcus's "9kHz_4mHz" conf= iguration. This loop system has increased my reception of the Alpha signal= s by about 10db giving up to 25db SNR. Thanks to Jim for a great design.

Stefan, can you tell me the QTH locator for your Tx si= te please.

Good luck with the 4th test.

73

Gary - G4WGT.

2010/4/2 Stefan Sch=E4fer <= ;schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt= .de>
Dear group,

After a break of one week i plan to transmit again on VLF / 8,97 kHz. If= the wind will be enough i will come up on saturday, 3. April, at arround= 10 UTC.

The DFCW-600 mode was a good choice in the last experiment, so i will keep= this mode.

If Markus/DF6NM has time to make QSP on the mobile phone to the reflector= (Markus ?) we could arrange various tests. I will also call other local= stations for reception reports during the transmission.

There will be some new components to test:

Today i started building up the 600W class D PA (at least 600W) that is di= rectly fed out of the 230V (rectified) of the generator. PTT and VFO input= is realised by fiber optic cables. The DC capacitor is 2000=B5F/350V and= can be put on voltage without a NTC or charging resistor due to the relat= ively high output impedance of the small generator (tested). This works ve= ry fine now. Tomorrow i will apply the FETs and the big ferrite core and= it's windings. Then i will do a test on a dummy load at home. If the= signal will be 3dB stronger, we could theoretically change to DFCW-300 co= mpared to the last experiment. But there are many OMs writing private mail= s to me and prepare to be QRV on this next test. Some of them are using E-= Field antennas and/or are more than 860km away, that' why i want to st= ay in QRSS-600 first. So there might come a new distance record? In any ca= se it will be exciting to me watching the new system running :-) Also it= will be interesting to see if the E-field antenna will get the signal!
The primary winding of the TX coil is increased from 9 to 13 turns due to= the higher power that will be applied. Otherwise the current will become= to high.

I will mount the amperemeter (analog, 1A) into the coil. That makes it eas= ier to adjust to resonance and watch the stability and maximum and average= (estimation) current.

Finally i will try to apply some copper rods into the earth and will look= how the antenna current is changing.

The goal is to radiate 4mW ERP. Another goal is to reach as many stations= as possible. So i would be pleased if YOU would be one of them. :-)

Since the QRM/QRN comes up in the late afternoon and transmitting for 4...= 5 hours i will close at about 15 UTC. So the planned LF activity is not af= fected :-). Sorry, but i cannot participate on the LF acty later since the= VLF coil takes all the place in my car ;-)

I looking forward to this experiment and wish you good luck and fun by rec= eiving =A0:-)

73 es gl, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: Could you give me a short feedback if you plan to be RX?




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