Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.83]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMB074-a7a84bcc9659dd; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E656638000093; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O3uzA-0007AW-VC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:42:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O3uzA-0007AN-IX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:42:16 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O3uz7-0003zn-U6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:42:16 +0100 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC2251C007 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.13]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAF731E702 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.13]) with mapi; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:02 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:00 +0200 Thread-Topic: LF: EARTH Thread-Index: Acrf2MAfEj+Ya5N+TwuxrqK+2/4WUQADUZcl Message-ID: References: <681228559-1271689925-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1565535176-@bda171.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>,<003b01cadfd7$a44098e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003b01cadfd7$a44098e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: EARTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40534bcc9657384b X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, the conductivity of silver is better than that of copper. But the differen= ce is marginal, the main advantage is that silver will not oxidate as much= as copper (metal oxides are rather poor conductors). That is why silver= plating makes sense, in particular on very high frequencies (where skin= depth is small, but solid silver wire does not (apart from the fact that= is will break very easy). However, the conductivity of gold is worse than that of silver and copper,= I don't think that there is any good reason to use gold plated antennas= (maybe except for vanity). 73, Rik ON7YD ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: maandag 19 april 2010 17:47 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: EARTH Mike Silver is ideal and better than copper but in California and possibly Texa= s they prefer GOLD, listen to those big W6 and W5 signals. I think W6AM had= a gold plated rhombic around the mid 50's. The heyday of amateur radio befor= e the appliance operator appeared. Nice to hear from you de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "WE0H-Mike" To: Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: LF: EARTH > I run 11,100 feet of radials for my HF and 600m antennas. It works great but I have lots of wire and lots of time to put them in the ground...hi hi > > As Mal said, using a good antenna and a few radials will work good. Use= a poor antenna and many radials and expect a compromise performance. > > I have been finding that using silver plated Teflon insulated wire for= my antennas and any coils, that my antennas seem to radiate well. I think the silver plating has a lower A/C resistance than copper which lowers the wir= e losses. > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > > > > > > Mobile on my BlackBerry >