Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.15]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-861b4bdb462a276; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:05:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-di11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E648C380000E5; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O7xNw-0006AB-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:04:32 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O7xNw-0006A2-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:04:32 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O7xNu-00079U-NH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:04:32 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 44BEC1C0021C for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 31F631C00224 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.80.156]) by mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id EAB421C0021C for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:04:24 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100430210424961.EAB421C0021C@mwinf3411.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <7F4AAE4C78244D19A3F0F5AB7CFE2938@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <618970.37366.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005801cae88f$64116770$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:04:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100430-0, 30/04/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: ROS s/ware Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d400f4bdb462803e8 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Close .. but as everyone uses the same software its hardly secret ? now if you could gain access and alter the random generator .. that would cause havoc ? Its a pity as the future is digital and a nice wide low power SS mode would very much enhance the band occupancy as it would enable multiple users on the same frequency .. this may be the final goal for ros as already its possible to stack more than one qso when in wide band on the same channel may be a channel selector is to be added changing the code sequence what then ? olivia produced 100 % copy when you could not 'see' the signal .. that was a millstone .. multiple qso's in the noise at 100% copy would be wonderful ... could even put all the pactor mailboxes on one channel G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacek Lipkowski" Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:31 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: ROS s/ware > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, mal hamilton wrote: > >> I see what u mean. I have checked the freq of interest and concluded that >> it is not a suitable mode for the narrow 500 kcs slot available to us. I >> wonder what is next on the appliance operators list. > > Mal, there is another problem - it is a closed mode, there is no source > code published etc. This is similar to someone inventing their own version > of CW, using it on the ham bands, and not telling anyone how to decode it > (ok, oversimplification, please refrain from comments about breaking > substitution ciphers etc :) > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > >