Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.206]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB071-a7844bdb22cc197; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 22B96380000B6; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O7v1q-0007pc-Nw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:33:34 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O7v1q-0007pT-70 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:33:34 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O7v1n-0006BG-PE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:33:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-221-89-85.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.89.85]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MTeXQ-1Nz9ZF0ytU-00R92r; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:33:25 +0200 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:33:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4BDB2274.14798.2CE59E3@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <005801cae88f$64116770$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <618970.37366.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, <005801cae88f$64116770$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.52) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18tOUIX8ePzVC8+fByvpGq1uRjWesfKKiX+u2H gWlfBL4mP2YZ0M9V3PRcZmxUIgbKMuOoDqEwOYwuOerm5nLHpb FMBxn5dTmMKBbykV2biz2+rBNGfFnLs X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: ROS s/ware Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ce4bdb22ca36fc X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On 30 Apr 2010 at 19:03, mal hamilton wrote: > Pete > I see what u mean. I have checked the freq of interest and concluded > that it is not a suitable mode for the narrow 500 kcs slot available to > us. I wonder what is next on the appliance operators list. g3kev For once I am afraid I agree with Mal... ROS created quite a stir when it first appeared on HF earlier in the year. Their first suggested working frequency on 20m put it splattering right over the IARU beacons on 14100, which it seems the developers had never heard of. They soon moved it.... And of course the FCC have decreed it is not legal in the USA because it is 'spread spectrum' which is not allowed below 220MHz. What advantage has it over the other digital modes which have been trialed on 500kHz? It is right that we should support these various digital modes (but none of them turn me on at all) but we should not do so at the danger of making the band unusable for other operators (and QSOs...). I am not on transmit mode at the moment, just receive. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com