Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj09.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.93]) by air-di01.mail.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDI013-eab84bcd5d521e1; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:52:50 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E4773380000AC; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O48Em-0004xE-FS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:51:16 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O48Em-0004x5-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:51:16 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O48El-0000iO-9i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:51:16 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o3K7p4AO024610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:51:05 +0200 Received: from [129.206.29.99] (pc99.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.99]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id o3K7pCQe020964 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:51:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4BCD5D66.4090001@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:53:10 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Dreamers Band update from W1VLF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010004010704040403020808" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89b24bcd5d5043ac X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010004010704040403020808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, VLF, Am 17.04.2010 17:58, schrieb Paul A. Cianciolo: > I wonder if you can point me to the schematic of your final amplifier? > It would be nice to learn from amplifier building experience. Yes, sure. But i want to wait until the new PA has passed it's first experiment, working on the antenna, not on a 300W halogen lamp ;-) > What is your over all system impedance impedance? > I see the coil is 283 ohms Currently i get about 580mA at 300W, so the loss resistance is about 900 Ohm. But due to the high Z and kite movement, these parameters are changing quickly, so it is difficult to measure exact values. Here, the new analog amperemeter will help! It is installed and calibrated but still not yet tested in the field... > Also do you ground radials, and flat aluminum show you an antenna > current difference? No, the ground radial (both sides insulated aluminium foil) makes no benefit. The copper plate is best. So, a capacitive coupling to ground seems to be rather difficult. Therefore, i am hopefully that the my copper ground rod that i have driven into the earth on the last experiment will cause a significant loss resistance decrease. But this is also not testes yet ;-) GL es 73! Stefan/DK7FC --------------010004010704040403020808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, VLF,

Am 17.04.2010 17:58, schrieb Paul A. Cianciolo:
I wonder if you can point me to the schematic of your final amplifier?
It would be nice to learn from amplifier building experience.

Yes, sure. But i want to wait until the new PA has passed it's first experiment, working on the antenna, not on a 300W halogen lamp ;-)
 
What is your over all system impedance impedance?
I see the coil is 283 ohms
Currently i get about 580mA at 300W, so the loss resistance is about 900 Ohm. But due to the high Z and kite movement, these parameters are changing quickly, so it is difficult to measure exact values. Here, the new analog amperemeter will help! It is installed and calibrated but still not yet tested in the field...

 
Also do you ground radials, and flat aluminum show you an antenna current difference?

No, the ground radial (both sides insulated aluminium foil) makes no benefit. The copper plate is best. So, a capacitive coupling to ground seems to be rather difficult. Therefore, i am hopefully that the my copper ground rod that i have driven into the earth on the last experiment will cause a significant loss resistance decrease. But this is also not testes yet ;-)



GL es 73!

Stefan/DK7FC


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