Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.137]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v128.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDD063-865c4bbc3f7e372; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:17:02 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A4C04380000E1; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NzQQb-0003Sj-Oc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:16:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NzQQb-0003Sa-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:16:01 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NzQQa-0000pb-MI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:16:01 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o378FqbU005799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:15:52 +0200 Received: from [129.206.29.99] (pc99.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.99]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id o378Fxbc030985 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:15:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBC3FC1.5070806@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:18:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001c01cad439$aa7aa830$0101a8c0@amd4800> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BD5@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <003801cad57e$a13410e0$0101a8c0@amd4800> <8585FA1C733D9A42AEA98C724D8FB811C05393@FBCMST18V01.fbc.local> <002301cad597$6b32cdb0$0101a8c0@amd4800> <8585FA1C733D9A42AEA98C724D8FB811C05394@FBCMST18V01.fbc.local> <001901cad61c$5ffbdb50$0101a8c0@amd4800> In-Reply-To: <001901cad61c$5ffbdb50$0101a8c0@amd4800> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: About 9khz loop...Re: R: Re: R: To Stefan/DK7FC Re: AW: E-field probe antennas for dreamers band? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40894bbc3f7c323c X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi George, Am 07.04.2010 08:34, schrieb George Vastianos: > About the easyloop end 9 khz bf, never forget that: "A filter works > correct and has the frequency responce that it was designed for... > when the input and output impedance is matched with the circuits > before and after the filter" This means that a filter is not a black > box where you plug it somewhere and plays... you have to look > carefully and check if the bandpass of Jim's loop can fit inside your > easyloop amp. Jim' switchable filter has a non-inverting OP amp as an input. So, the input impedance of the filter can be seen as infinity, especially at 9 kHz. Also, the filter behaviour is not affected by the circuit that is connected before the OP amp (IC1B). It is decoupled by the OP amp. Also the input impedance of the next stage, IC1A and it's input R divider is about 50 kOhm, what is high against R11 (1,2kOhm). So the filter is not affected by it's outside components of the circuit and/or the kind of loop antenna that you connect at the input, i would say. If using different loop antenna forms at the input it may just be necessary to adjust C8 for optimal resonance. 73, Stefan/DK7FC