Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.77]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v128.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDC054-86a34bc2043d24d; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:17:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D3B3D3800009A; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O10lW-0005aa-Ti for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:16:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O10lW-0005aR-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:16:10 +0100 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O10lU-0005S8-Mw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:16:10 +0100 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o3BHG69L031312 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:16:07 +0200 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:16:06 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BDC@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1BDC@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: DFCW Thread-Index: AcrZgbP02b8Quq4xQx2Tuj8zFsU74wAF2m24 References: <4BC1E717.21514.149803B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.878;11.04.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.388399, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.4.11.170015 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAD99A.ABD60223" Subject: LF: AW: DFCW X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/57329 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d4bc2043b2986 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAD99A.ABD60223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike,=20 =20 Well, i don't think i am an "DFCW expert" but i often use it ;-) =20 How have you modified your DDS to allow you to transmit DFCW? I have done= the same before a few weeks and it works quiete fine. The DFCW shift is= given by the RS232 level of the QRS program. This allows one increment or= decrement. So my shift is 50mHz, 0,5Hz, 5Hz and so on, since i use a f/2= divider in the PA ;-) =20 I normally specify the frequency of the dash, so the dot is on the loswer= frequency with the given shift. =20 Yes, ON7YD's QRS is also still my favorite. Just works fine... =20 I also use double space but additionally i choose "ommit redundant key gap= s". This is all a litte "matter of taste", just like the 1:3 ratio in CW= (hand given). ON VLF in DFCW-120 i think i will chosse "single space" if= i will ever make a QSO there ;-) =20 Wish you fun there above on 136 kHz ;-) =20 73, Stefan/DK7FC ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von Mike Dennison Gesendet: So 11.04.2010 16:13 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: DFCW After many years of using QRSS, I have been spurred into modifying my DDS to give me DFCW capability for the first time. Would experienced DFCW operators please give me the benefit of their experience? If you are specifying a frequency, do you quote the Dash, Dot or centre frequency? I am using ON7YD's 'QRS' software and it seems that the clearest signal is given by the following settings: "DFCW double space" "Key Gap 1s" (for 3sec dots) This gives a good visible gap between characters and a small gap between elements. It looks like the signal might be clearer when using 4s dots. What do the experts think? 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