Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.92]) by air-di02.mail.aol.com (v128.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDI021-eaba4bbcb07e213; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:19:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 465AF38000091; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NzXwz-0005if-Ru for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:17:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NzXwz-0005iW-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:17:57 +0100 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NzXwx-0004oR-Bz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:17:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 49760 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 16:17:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=2NxKzZ/FGW/panTPzvSmjgHG6GUwJoPvx5BFgFbO7lcMa04BwCoE1HDd3pH9AxASDO6Za5JJEzDe6xEW8IwG5sCvzxZLcnlyNVzDTYaH8nObTuMYDvZf1pOZxgo+n34AAHOdr7W5ORy4SxDnAKIbEXn4NzA9DnDi6zFBYx3XHBc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1270657068; bh=+zQzfDqN6Wm+PshwYu2rpziOirSsSptCvmD59sBJNCk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=q3Olgzej5uHfgSSyXR5PJZkI7aziVhhK9IZ1+vPEXNrAPW/reQZTjdVxwEt7VDXMUANM134ZY6odOKBezb+UafIRUdjJik0R7UIOozgZyv+seRJUUtJ1mCEvjgOAwu3I9siwOZ+9LkYGMfMmywnF3uBGCxMcbnzzCtScX6QIuTo= Received: from lark (alan.melia@81.131.11.168 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Apr 2010 16:17:46 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: ZyFj5Y4VM1l5dvrThTlU_2wUlBqT7dqFwaWJ4fm38J1dAijRtl0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005401cad66d$ef5fe920$0901a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4BB13167.3080404@telus.net>, <4BBA4F6A.9840.F1BA72@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <4BBACEA6.4060703@telus.net> <4BBCB626.30059.18824AC@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:11:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VE7TIL Grabber and DCF39 Monitor back online Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d272.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605c4bbcb07c0236 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Scott I forgot to mention I guess you are using Spec lab.......have a word with Jean- Pierre or Wolf because you can run split windows.......this doesnt help if you have a limitation of an SSB filter though unless you have a 3kHz one. :-)) Alan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: LF: VE7TIL Grabber and DCF39 Monitor back online > Scott, > > I do not have direct experience of running a grabber, but it seems to > me that your main difficulty is that, even with a SSB bandwidth on > your LF receiver, you cannot cover DCF39 and the Eu DX window at the > same time. > > The window at 136.318kHz was chosen to facilitate transatlantic tests > and two-way QSOs so that the west-east traffic around 137.777kHz did > not clash with east-west traffic. As I recall, there were QRM issues > in Canada or the USA which meant that this was optimum. I do not know > whether these are still relevant. > > I suggest an alternative west-east DX window just below the QRSS3 > part of the band, ie around 137.650kHz. Provided this is not used for > daytime transmissions when QRSS3 activity is expected, it should not > cause QRM to other users. I would still suggest using the lower part > of the band for skeds. > > This would enable you and others to add an Argo window that is within > the receiver's passband, but avoids the need for Eu stations to QRM > the 137.777 area in order to check reception on most grabbers. > > Does this help? > > What to other users of 137kHz think? > > Mike > ==== > > > > > If you or anyone can assist me in getting the equipment or expertise > > to get this setup I can commit to have it operational from a low noise > > site for the next DX season. > > > > I just welcomed my first child within the last year to the world so > > time is limited but my passion for LF is GREAT ;-) > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Dennison wrote: > > > OK, all understood. Thanks for considering the idea. > > > > > > 73 de Mike > > > ======== > > > > > > > > >> Unfortunately as the main LF RX is tuned to allow reception of the > > >> upper end of the band 137778ish and DCF39 the EU DX window is not > > >> within my passband. > > >> > > >> I hope to have a SDR online sometime in the future which would > > >> resolve this. > > >> > > >> 73, > > >> Scott > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Mike Dennison wrote: > > >> > > >>> This is good news, Scott. Is there any chance of one of your > > >>> grabbers being tuned to the EU DX Tx window of 136.318kHz? > > >>> > > >>> Mike. G3XDV > > >>> ========== > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> I'm pleased to report the noise problem has been resolved and > > >>>> most of the renovations here are complete. The 2200m grabber and > > >>>> DCF39 monitor are back online. > > >>>> > > >>>> 73 Scott > > >>>> VE7TIL > > >>>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >