Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj01.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.85]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDE063-5eb84b9545633f; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:43:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 325D438000058; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nohue-0001Hd-3Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:42:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nohud-0001HU-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:42:43 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NohuZ-0004kZ-Fs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:42:43 +0000 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so4727561bwz.4 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:42:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Fcal+IpPhI+AcOHEwXF3kbptubb9tC57H9P3hvs87Ek=; b=rq+cwK2d4IBuA/IOkpUeaMmO5eGD53NBw0xUWf9G7vNsyOPzRevloZWUN4Sad7jEMT ftC+wHn2h1GIega2wr/2h6JiIXIGiLgvnkMdQrp1u9TPVr4sU0/buM1TVLBOsy97Pyju 5tUNRble+AjaWZWEyKpui53qQzuFheFYnoreQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Q/tHejHe4dxLruv68HOjSd7tUZEM2ryYI4A+s4z9flrlIkn4cfiqtIdV9MdxYbWwKb oskdHhcVwO7vtk0pWNj9sU1aYE36rz73mkmlIQUU17RwR+LFF5a2ZEm00Uqr2+TgDbWK QUeR4PSCol9dwWuwLlK5mYV1/JuEdox87Gpgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.38.82 with SMTP id a18mr5647408bke.155.1268073753563; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:42:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:42:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: VLF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555abf2a1551b04814e6d34 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a24b9545620e3e X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00032555abf2a1551b04814e6d34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...wishing I'd persued the NoV application a few years ago instead of just letting it slide into oblivion... Has anyone yet tried a ground loop at 9kHz? That was going to be my firs= t (and probably only) antenna type, running a length of wire as far away fro= m the house as I could get-away with and connecting it to a ground stake, th= en feeding this against the existing local earth. I never got round to maki= ng measurements to see what sort of ground resistance might be expected, but that would have been a lot easier than winding 1.4H air woun= d chokes. My house backs onto a main road, and there is a drainage ditch running behide trees and foliage running for about 70m in one direction that would have made a useful route to hide a wire in. Might have been interesting hammering in a ground stake next to the footpath at the corner of the next road though ! Andy www.g4jnt.com 2010/3/8 Wolfgang B=FCscher > Hi Stefan, > > > A VLF grabber would be very fine! If you can arrange that, it would perh= aps >> be a motivation for the dreamers ;-) >> >> > Well there are two now (Markus' and Paul's) .. I will try to add a third > but need to get away from the local QRM. The plan is to use an UHF FM li= nk > to the remote, battery-powered site but there are some issues to be solv= ed - > one of them is the lack of dynamic range of the FM transmitter/receiver,= so > I may have to add some analog bandpass filtering before the FM modulator > (which would render it useless for broadband VLF signals, especially nat= ural > radio signals..). > > Will keep you informed, when/where another VLF 'live spectrogram' goes > online. > > Cheers, > Wolf . > > > --00032555abf2a1551b04814e6d34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...wishing I'd persued=A0the NoV application a few years ago inst= ead of just letting it slide into oblivion...
=A0
Has anyone yet tried a ground loop at 9kHz?=A0=A0 That was going to= be my first (and probably only) antenna type, running a length of wire as= far away from the house as I could get-away with and connecting it to a= ground stake, then feeding this against the existing local earth.=A0=A0= I never got round to=A0making measurements to see what sort of ground res= istance might be expected,=A0but=A0that would have been a lot easier than= winding 1.4H air wound chokes.
=A0
My house backs onto a main road, and there is a drainage ditch runnin= g behide trees and foliage running for about 70m in one direction that wou= ld have made a useful route to=A0hide=A0a wire in.=A0 Might have been inte= resting hammering in a ground stake=A0next to the footpath at the corner= of the next=A0road though !
2010/3/8 Wolfgang B=FCscher &= lt;dl4yhf@freenet.de>
Hi Stefan,


A VLF grabber would be very fi= ne! If you can arrange that, it would perhaps be a motivation for the drea= mers ;-)
=A0
Well there are two now (Markus' and Paul's) ..= I will try to add a third but need to get away from the local QRM. The pl= an is to use an UHF FM link to the remote, battery-powered site but there= are some issues to be solved - one of them is the lack of dynamic range= of the FM transmitter/receiver, so I may have to add some analog bandpass= filtering before the FM modulator (which would render it useless for broa= dband VLF signals, especially natural radio signals..).

Will keep you informed, when/where another VLF 'live spectrogram&#= 39; goes online.

Cheers,
=A0Wolf .



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