Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.87]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMA062-b5294ba9e6de28c; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:18:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7C86D38000081; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NuNdb-00059o-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:16:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NuNdb-00059f-33 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:16:35 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([195.4.92.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NuNdY-0005Bn-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:16:34 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID exim) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #2) id 1NuNdX-0001aH-Jb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:16:31 +0100 Received: from www20.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.242]:40139) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID exim) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #2) id 1NuNdX-0001jN-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:16:31 +0100 Received: from www-data by www20.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1NuNdW-000602-PV for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:16:31 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 87.245.17.222 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:16:30 +0100 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40574ba9e6dc2740 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Rik, I prefer the SDR-IQ for VLF - it's less expensive than the Perseus, and mo= re important, it goes down in frequency to "almost zero" (unlike Perseus,= as mentioned here before). Don't get this wrong, Perseus is a superb radi= o too, but there's no easy way to bypass the input bandpass (highpass). I= use Perseus on HF, and SDR-IQ on LF, VLF, and to listen for bats(!) . Most soundcard's are fine too, and for the next experiment, you will be ab= le to use the ALPHA signals to permanently calibrate the soundcard's frequ= ency drift (when extremely high FFT resolution is required).=20 Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission Gesendet: Mi 24 M=E4r 2010 09:50:19 CET Von: "Rik Strobbe" > Hello Roelof, >=20 > thanks for the circuit diagram. It looks pretty simple. > If I "read" the circuit diagram correct it is a buffer amplifier (the=20 > voltage gain maybe even less than 1, however due to the impedance=20 > transformation the power gain is huge). > It seems a bit of overshoot to me to buy a perseus (just checked,=20 > they ask 850 Euro for it), so my first option would be to go to the=20 > PC soundcard. > Do you (or others) have any experience with that ? >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD >=20 >=20 > At 19:29 23/03/2010, you wrote: > >Hello Rick, > > > >Michael Oexner has had good results with a mini-whip E-field probe I bu= ild > >for him. > >The circuit diagram is in the attachment. > >The feedline is CAT5 network cable. > > > >Note that the RF-isolating transformers in the signal path are not > correct. > >I have used MCL TT 1-6 parts, rated for 0.004 - 300 MHz at the -3 dB > >points. > >The common mode chokes are not optimum, as I used the parts I had on ha= nd. > >Type 75 or 77 ferrite should be better. > > > >Michael used a PERSEUS SDR, which has a noise figure of about 25 dB at= 9 > >kHz. > >This is due to the fact that there is also a RF-isolating transformer= in > >the signal path. > > > >It is amazing that with this not optimized set up it was possible to ha= ve > >good reception over a 72 km path. > >The actual capture area of the antenna is 30 x 40 mm single sided coppe= r > >clad PCB. > > > >There are quite a few people around with a PERSEUS SDR, who are probabl= y > >interested in receiving Stefan's signal. > >So a simple antenna design might help. > > > >I have the parts for an optical link active E-field antenna, as suggest= ed > >by Stefan. > >Due to other more pressing matters, I have not yet put them to good use= . > > > >I hope this helps, > > > >Best regards, > >Roelof, pa0rdt > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 --- original Nachricht Ende ---- Gratis: Jeden Monat 3 SMS versenden- Mit freenetMail - Ihrer kostenlose E-Mail-Adresse http://email.freenet.de/dienste/emailoffice/produktuebersicht/basic/sms/in= dex.html?pid=3D6830