Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.139]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC053-a9694b96adb635f; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:21:10 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 15506380000AD; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Np5uL-0007Um-9B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:20:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Np5uK-0007UY-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:20:00 +0000 Received: from rsys001x.roke.co.uk ([193.118.201.108]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Np5uH-0005YW-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:20:00 +0000 Received: from rsys005a.comm.ad.roke.co.uk (rsys005a.comm.ad.roke.co.uk [192.168.193.85]) by rsys001x.roke.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o29KJno5030425 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:19:49 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Disposition-Notification-To: "Gannaway, Julian" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:19:48 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and web access? 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d074b96adb479cc X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CABFC5.DE1382EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am very happy with the reflector as it is... plain, simple, emails. none of the complexities/frills of Yahoo... If an archive can be added in some other way, without altering that, fine... Julian G3YGF =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Gould Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and web access? =20 Pete,=20 Thanks for your comments. I am sure that there are several solutions possible to having some form of accessible archive for information other than skeds, QSO outcomes, etc. Whilst the current reflector does provide a fast and simple service expanding it, if indeed it is possible, might bring admin issues that would need addressing. It may be best to consider the options, without at this stage planning to close this reflector. To me some form of Wiki would perhaps be useful, as that might need less management / admin than say a dedicated website. Do we have someone withing our ranks who can offer up some suggestions. The key to me would be to find something where key things can be achived in an easily retrievable fashion, but with the minimum overhead on administration. 73 John, G3WKL On 8 March 2010 15:37, M0FMT wrote: Hi John and group=20 =20 I think one of the features of Yahoo and Google groups is that an archive of Circuit, Photographs, Articles, Grabber dumps and calculations like Markus' work can be stored in file (directories) attached to the group. In this way rigs like Rog's GW3UEP "Starter" 500kc/s TX could be attached to the group archive. I think this is one of the greatest missed opportunities with the LF reflector to build a great body of work open to all and to new entrants.=20 The Softrock Yahoo group has a great archive body that all users can delve into which go right back to the origin of Softrock and is maintained up to the present so any of the kit info can be down loaded plus support projects that were never kitted but you can still make them because the info is there.=20 =20 I have read through the Black-sheep preamble and there seems to be something similar available in a DOSy sort of way. If that is so it would be great if it could be used as suggested above. I think Roger G3XBM was getting at this in his mail if you read it. A delve-able archive is what is missing here I feel.=20 73 es GL petefmt --- On Mon, 8/3/10, John Gould wrote: =20 From: John Gould =20 Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and web access? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 8 March, 2010, 14:02 =20 Sorry that I've missed this thread _ I've been away at a place where the phone line was down and 3G, etc, can't reach - idylic. =20 As Alan says the reflector has been in operation for many years. It followed a "group" on packet that started and the messages of which I collated, roughly monthly, and issued as a newsletter to those not on packet. I kept all the material for many years, like Peter, G3LDO with a mind to do something with it, however, whilst there are many gems in it much was ephemeral. Probably, the best parts have subsequently been developed and found their place in the RSGB Handbook, LF Experimenters' Handbook and the like. In those days the group discussed 73 kHz. As e-mail became more general we moved across to this reflector. =20 =20 I'm not the Sysop, but I am the link to him. He's just come back to me and thinks that it is possible to allow a larger files size. 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I am very happy with= the reflector as it is... plain, simple, emails. none of the complexities/frills of Yahoo...

If an archive can be= added in some other way, without altering that, fine...

Julian G3YGF

 

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From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Gould
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Subject: Re: LF: Why is thi= s group not a Yahoo group with archives and web access?

 

Pete,

Thanks for your comments.  I am sure that there are several solutions possible to having some form of accessible archive for information other= than skeds, QSO outcomes, etc.  Whilst the current reflector does provide= a fast and simple service expanding it, if indeed it is possible, might brin= g admin issues that would need addressing.  It may be best to consider= the options, without at this stage planning to close this reflector.  To= me some form of Wiki would perhaps be useful, as that might need less managem= ent / admin than say a dedicated website.  Do we have someone withing our= ranks who can offer up some suggestions.  The key to me would be to find something where key things can be achived in an easily retrievable fashion= , but with the minimum overhead on administration.

73 John, G3WKL

On 8 March 2010 15:37, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>= ; wrote:



Hi John and group

 =

I think= one of the features of Yahoo and Google groups is that an archive of Circuit, Photographs, Articles, Grabber dumps and calculations like Markus’= work  can be stored in file (directories) attached to the group. In this way rigs= like Rog’s GW3UEP “Starter” 500kc/s TX could be attached to= the group archive. I think this is one of the greatest missed opportunities with the LF refle= ctor to build a great body of work open to all and to new entrants.

The Soft= rock Yahoo group has a great archive body that all users can delve into which go ri= ght back to the origin of Softrock and is maintained up to the present so an= y of the kit info can be down loaded plus support projects that were never ki= tted but you can still make them because the info is there.

 =

I have= read through the Black-sheep preamble and there seems to be something similar available= in a DOSy sort of way. If that is so it would be great if it could be used as suggested above. I think Roger G3XBM was getting at this in his mail if= you read it. A delve-able archive is what is missing here I feel.
73 es GL petefmt

--- On Mon, 8/3/10, John Gould <jwgould@iee.org> wrote:


From: John Gould <jwgould@iee.org>


Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and= web access?
To: rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Date: Monday, 8 March, 2010, 14:02

 

Sorry that I've mis= sed this thread _ I've been away at a place where the phone line was down an= d 3G, etc, can't reach - idylic.

As Alan says the reflector has been in operation for many years. = It followed a "group" on packet that started and the messages of= which I collated, roughly monthly, and issued as a newsletter to those not on packet.  I kept all the material for many years, like Peter, G3LDO= with a mind to do something with it, however, whilst there are many gems in= it much was ephemeral. Probably, the best parts have subsequently been deve= loped and found their place in the RSGB Handbook, LF Experimenters' Handbook= and the like.  In those days the group discussed 73 kHz.  As e-mai= l became more general we moved across to this reflector. 

I'm not the Sysop, but I am the link to him.  He's just come back= to me and thinks that it is possible to allow a larger files size.  He'll= look into it this evening and let me know.

73 John, G3WKL

 


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