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Hello Uwe,

I used my 83m lazy loop for 80m on 136kHz for many years. It was about 10m heights and fed with wireman. I was amazing with my RX EKD-514.

I was inspired by the attached article in CQ-DL.

The G5RV with additional 30m wire made a loop of 65m. I did not think it was too critical and built the simple circuit for use with my 83m without any changes for a first test.

It worked very well, even for SAQ or DI2AG. Maybe changing the Cs would have improved it a bit. For TX I surely hat to change the Cs because of the longer wire. But as my circuit is just for RX and not suitable at higher voltage I would have to build a new one for TX anyhow.

Unfortunately the loop became a ciryl victim . . .

vy73 Horst DO1KHS

Von: Uwe Wensauer <uwe.wensauer@gmx.de>
Gesendet: 03.03.2010 11:28:21
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: TX- Loop for 136kHz

Hi,

wonder if someone using / Experimenting with a small loop for Xmitting / RX and could provide overal dimensions and results

73

Uwe, DK1KQ

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